Posted on 08/21/2008 6:29:23 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
I find it ironic that some posters have no problem with the FLDS’s ‘beliefs’ and say they have the right to BELIEVE whatever they want to justify their behavior, and that the Constitution gives them that right,
BUT, those same posters are dead set on insisting you and I can’t believe what we want, or even believe in the facts as they are presented in the articles.
They’ve run out of bullets, so they are throwing mud.
Sure he was. He thought, and shared his thought, that the Government should be overthrown by 'any means necessary.' That's a belief system. He shared that belief system.
He was prosecuted and imprisoned for it.
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“Nice show for the camera.”
It is possible (I don’t know where or when this picture was taken or the circumstances) that they had a reason to ‘cry’.
The reason may be that the woman in the middle is bending their arms behind their back too forcefully.
Or maybe they were ‘playing it up’ for the camera.
What I do notice is that the woman behind them, who may not have noticed the camera, seems to be picking her nose.
“He was prosecuted and imprisoned for it.”
Yes, he was.
But, that was then, this is now. And that legal precedence has since been overturned.
It would be like saying that the FLDS sex with minors is OK because the law in Texas USED TO BE 14.
Oh lets see. The persecution of the FLDS for their beliefs? By you. The extermination order against the Mormons? I can go on and on. Almost every minority gets persecuted for their beliefs in one way or another.
No. I said that not all sex with minors is illegal. There is a difference that you don't seem to be able to grasp. Why don't you read the Constitution some day it will help you understand a few issues.
If the ‘mind police’ were called on you and Jrochelle, I bet they’d take you first.
It depends on what the mind police believe, but you are probably right. That is why I try and defend everyone's right to think as they want to.
Under Sharia Law you are correct : ) Do you want to live under Sharia Law?
No but apparently you think the U.S. is under “FLDS law”; which it is not.
Free exercise of religion is not license to break the law and rape 13 year old girls.
You’re contradicting yourself. He wasn’t prosecuted for what he thought, or believed, he was prosecuted for his actions.
Try again.
Just the red ones...
Seems the investigation[s] are continuing as more info becomes available.
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A search warrant filed in late July and released this week by the 51st state district court provides more light on the evidence bolstering the state’s case against one of the five men, Allan Eugene Keate.
According to an affidavit attached with the warrant and signed by Texas Ranger Sgt. Nick Hanna, sect records show Keate as having married a 15-year-old girl in 2005 and fathering a child with her in December 2006.
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http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/aug/22/grand-jury-returns-three-more-indictments-in/
“I said that not all sex with minors is illegal. There is a difference that you don’t seem to be able to grasp.”
Oh, I grasp it. And I agreed that technically there are cases where that is legal.
Now, was it legal in Texas, the way it was allegedly done at the YFZ Ranch?
The little girl covering her eyes is just doing that. No reason to assume that she is crying. I’ve seen kids act like that just pretending to be shy.
“The persecution of the FLDS for their beliefs? “
They are being prosecuted for their acts.
You are sharp this morning : )
What disgusts me is the easy manipulation of deeply faithful people who are taught from birth, one way or another, unquestioning obedience by unscrupulous leaders.
I couldn't agree more : ) That is one of the reasons why I am an Atheist.
What disgusts me is occasional men, having absolute control over their children, fall into pedophilic behavior as they train girls "when they are still young" to become a pleasing wife to the husband.
Repeating yourself?
What disgusts me is while claiming polygamy is simply a mandate by God and that men are being "holy" as they fulfill this directive to qualify for celestial glory, the polygamist leaders lustfully pursue vibrant, playful little girls who then devolve into lifeless, emotionless women.
Religion is evil. I agree : )
The women and children were taken away because of what they were taught. Read the filings from the CPS. That was their argument.
“It depends on what the mind police believe, but you are probably right. That is why I try and defend everyone’s right to think as they want to. “
OH, MY (non-existent creator of the universe)!
We are in total agreement!
: )
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