Posted on 08/21/2008 6:29:23 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
A Schleicher County grand jury today handed down three new felony indictments in the state's polygamist sect investigation, a court clerk said.
Schleicher County District Clerk Peggy Williams said the indictments involve three individuals. It's unclear whether those individuals are new defendants or suspects already charged in the probe.
The identities of those individuals were not immediately available. Neither were the actual charges listed in the indictments.
The grand jury last month indicted six members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
Court hearings for those individuals is scheduled for Sept. 8, authorities said.
The grand jury plans to reconvene on Sept. 23, Williams said.
Sect spokesman Willie Jessop was one of six witnesses subpoenaed today. When asked about his testimony, Jessop told reporters: "We certainly believe there is a God. We believe he will judge all. Those who judge will be judged themselves."
In related action today, a case involving Lloyd Barlow, a physician at the sect's YFZ compound near Eldorado, was transferred to the Schleicher County court system. He is facing three charges of failing to report child abuse, a misdemeanor. He was among the six members of FLDS indicted last month.
You are being dishonest, or you don't see the difference between someone marrying a 15 year old and someone entering into bigamy. So which is it? Are you a liar or an idiot?
I have thank you : )
As for our Cat, hes either alive or dead. We humans just dont have fine enough instruments to measure his status (yet). You just have to think in bigger numbers.
No you missed the point, the Cat is alive or dead, our measurements don't matter. That was Schroedingers contention anyway.
Altruism and conscience are discussed as physiological and evolutionary tools all the time in the scientific literature, in order to prove that theres no such thing as free will.
In scientific literature? What does Feynman have to say on the matter?
Ahh Another false scripture. I am so glad I am an atheist.
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."
So God established Hitler, Stalin, Castro, etc? If you say so, but I still won't submit myself to Chavez.
Do you really believe that crap?
You are the one trying to make a religious argument now you are an athiest?
Lost a little credbility.
I believe Schroedinger’s point was that the cat became certainly dead or alive - at least in this universe - only when we open the box, when we measure. Until then, there was a possibility that he was either.
Unfortunately, Feynman’s dead. I would like to know what he says about the nature of the universe, now. While alive, he was a brilliant man, and I read two of his autobiographical books to find that he was also witty. However, even he couldn’t explain to me how something came from nothing “in the beginning.”
Your statements do not have linearity, which leads me to believe that your thoughts aren’t any better organized.
There is a difference between bigamy and marrying a 15 year old. Even outside the laws of Texas, I can’t think of a society that wouldn’t determine that there’s a difference between a 17 year old marrying a 15 year old and a 39 year old marrying a 15 year old.
Moreover, the flds knew the law in Texas. The indicted men and the women who have lost custody of their children, as well as those children, live in Texas.
Attempting to ignore facts and the local laws, or to live as though breaking those laws is without consequence, is not the mark of a logical mind. For these parents to repeatedly do so when there’s increased scrutiny and power on the part of the courts is more than plain dumb: it’s negligence, if not criminal.
Lost a little credbility.
Pointing out how stupid the scripture that you asked me to read was loses me credibility? LOL Why don't you go live under Chavez's rule?
IF a governing authority is practicing things that are against the laws of God, then common sense tells us that we must resist and refuse to do anything that is against the laws of God, even to the point of “getting out of the city”. Yep, if it is just paying taxes, obeying governmental laws not counter to God’s laws, living in peace with our fellow man, not stealing, etc., then if we’re living under any government we must see that we obey those laws of man that do not do harm and tend to peace. Leaving Germany when Hitler began to make it clear he was bent upon sending his people to take over the world, getting out, escaping Germany would have given German men an option, besides getting shot, other than obeying a despot. Sometimes, the time comes when loyalty to crown and country takes a back seat to loyalty to the Kingdom of God. God gave us common sense so we wouldn’t be fools.
Nope, you are completely, 100%, wrong. Schrodinger's point was that the cat died or lived on its own. Our measurement of the cats status was completely irrelevant. Hence his opposition to the Copenhagen convention.
Unfortunately, Feynmans dead. I would like to know what he says about the nature of the universe, now. While alive, he was a brilliant man, and I read two of his autobiographical books to find that he was also witty. However, even he couldnt explain to me how something came from nothing in the beginning.
Actually he does : ) Turn to 3-5 in his "The Feynman lectures on physics" and he lays it out. Knowledge is power : )
That isn't what Romans 13:1 says : ) That is good common sense though.
God gave us common sense so we wouldnt be fools.
Too bad whoever wrote his scriptures didn't have any : )
Your problem is that you religious nut cases tend to read more into things than are actually written.
There is a difference between bigamy and marrying a 15 year old. Even outside the laws of Texas, I cant think of a society that wouldnt determine that theres a difference between a 17 year old marrying a 15 year old and a 39 year old marrying a 15 year old.
I said that it was legal to marry a 15 year old girl. First you called me a liar by saying that bigamy was illegal, as if that disputed my statement. Now you are trying to say that there is a difference between a 17 and a 39 year old marrying a 15 year old girl. There is, but that is relevant how? Can I give you a clue? Think before you post.
Moreover, the flds knew the law in Texas. The indicted men and the women who have lost custody of their children, as well as those children, live in Texas.
Are you trying to imply that I thought this all took place in Kansas? Or that just maybe the FLDS knew that Texas allowed 15 year olds to marry. I am curious as to what point you are trying to make.
Attempting to ignore facts and the local laws, or to live as though breaking those laws is without consequence, is not the mark of a logical mind. For these parents to repeatedly do so when theres increased scrutiny and power on the part of the courts is more than plain dumb: its negligence, if not criminal.
Are you trying to say that ignorance is criminal? LOL Maybe it should be. Some people are too stupid to live.
“Your statements do not have linearity,”
You noticed that too?
Changing tenses in mid stream.
Playing games with semantics.
I think, LeGrande, you are outsmarting yourself.
And the only one fooled, is you.
And the only one fooled, is you.
Where?
And the whole point of the Schroedinger Cat theory is totally missed by most scientists, and most who discuss it’s application.
“Where? “
That I have to point it out, proves it is true.
Everyone else sees it.
“You know that it is the truth that it was perfectly legal to marry a 15 year old in Texas.
When, and under what circumstances?
Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?
Since you point it out in your next post we shall see. Won't we?
When, and under what circumstances?
I believe it was until sometime in 2006 and with her parents permission.
So this question is the best you can do? LOL
There is evidence of negligence and criminal activity in that the Barlowe and Jeffs 14 and 16 year old daughters believe they are married to much older men who have other "wives," and that a large number of other flds 14, 15, and 16 year olds have given birth.
I don't have the Lectures (they were old even when I was a little girl, I'll wait for the next definitive set), so I had fun reviewing material available on the Internet about Schroedinger's cat, Feynman and the latter's views on the origin of the universe. There are lists of errata, reviews, powerpoint presentations by Hawkins' and others, and comments from and about tons of physicists and philosophers.
You are right in that Schroedinger used that darn cat to object to aspects of the current observation in quantum theory and to demonstrate that cat is always in one state or the other. Others make that cat do all sorts of things.
However, nothing I read convinced me that Feynman did more than string us along the wrong paths, lead us 'round and 'round.
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