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Norway: Russia to cut all military ties with NATO
AP via Breitbart ^ | 8/20/2008 | AP

Posted on 08/20/2008 11:53:51 AM PDT by zencat

Norway's Defense Ministry says Russia has informed it that it plans to cut all military ties with NATO.

Ministry spokeswoman Heidi Langvik-Hansen says the country's embassy received a telephone call from Russia's Defense Ministry on Wednesday, saying Moscow plans "to freeze all military cooperation with NATO and allied countries."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: frontpage; geopolitics; nato; norway; russia; russianmilitary
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To: zencat

The more things change the more they stay the same. The Russian bear is back and Putin is pulling the puppet strings. Thankfully our president was able to look into his soul.


101 posted on 08/20/2008 1:27:47 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: truthguy
Anyone out there know what to make of what the hell the Russians are doing? They seem to be in some type of self destruct mode. Don't they realize that their future is with the West? What alternatives do they have? Don't they see China to the east and the Muslim countries to the south as more of a threat. They cannot be so stupid as to think the western countries are a threat. Is Putin simply trying to consolidate his power. What's up?

I used to think the same as you. Why doesn't Russia see the threat to itself from China and Iran? But I think the answer is that Russia is not a part of Europe. It is more Asiatic than European. And to the Slovophiles, Russia is a unique continent to itself, neither a part of Europe nor Asia.

In the 3rd centure AD, the Roman emperor Constantine moved the capital from Rome to Constantinople in the more prosperous east of the empire. Constantinople became the New or Second Rome. That Second Rome converted the Russians to Eastern Orthodox Christianity. When Constantinople fell to the Turks in the 15th century, Moscow thought that it was now the Third Rome. Even the ruling family took the name Romanoff.

Russia has a long history of ruling an empire under a Tsar. (This word Tsar derives from the Latin Caesar via the German Kaiser.) Many Russians still think that it is their destiny to rule a great empire. The Soviet Union was only the last version of that empire. Putin is simply trying to revive the Russian empire.

102 posted on 08/20/2008 1:28:47 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Deo volente
Russia is on a downhill skid in many ways.

Putin maybe calculating that massive intimidation will get Russia what they want. Question is what can they get to stop the skid?

103 posted on 08/20/2008 1:32:46 PM PDT by AU72
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To: SampleMan
Tally up the medals of the former soviet states and vassal states and it is not so unimpressive. But of course the Russians no longer get bragging rights.

That is true. But if you tally up the medals won by the Anglosphere of the US, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand, you end up with 164 medals so far, from a population of less that 1/3 that of China. That I call impressive.

104 posted on 08/20/2008 1:37:14 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: zencat
Norwegians are concerned as their plan and strategy of drilling in the arctic might not be looked upon favorably by these Russians who already planted a flag to state their territorial claims.
To keep the peace with Putin they might want to give him the same treatment as to Gore, namely crown him with their Nobel.
105 posted on 08/20/2008 1:37:14 PM PDT by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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To: DemonDeac

Careful now!
I was accused of “Bush bashing” when I said the same thing recently.


106 posted on 08/20/2008 1:39:42 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: sarasota
An alliance with Iran?
Just wait when Obama moves out of Iraq who the ones are that immediately move in...namely both Iran and the Russians to provide “protection”.
The Russians by the way had solid relations and explorations with Saddam.
107 posted on 08/20/2008 1:41:20 PM PDT by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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To: brytlea

Except McCain


108 posted on 08/20/2008 1:46:15 PM PDT by pangaea6
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To: shalom aleichem

< Obama >
This is just as much the fault of Georgia as it is Russia’s, and it’s just wrong to blame Putin
< /Obama >


109 posted on 08/20/2008 1:49:24 PM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Deo volente

“Bush bashing?” I doubt it. BDS, more likely.


110 posted on 08/20/2008 1:51:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Retain Mike

I agree with you. Great post. You either do or should write for STRATFOR.

This little mis-adventure gave us all kinds of intelligence. We heard the Russians used a great deal of cyberwarfare against poor little GA. Everything The Bear did do has been duly noted by NSA et al and there are mountains of elint, sigint and humnit to keep analysts busy for months. We will know enough of what they do and will do, and can design and erect counter-measures against all of it. We’ll also discover their soft spots.

Condi is in her element. Her forte is Russia.


111 posted on 08/20/2008 1:53:15 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: pangaea6

I guess I was thinking of the media, which didn’t didn’t seem to understand that it meant anything for quite some time.
susie


112 posted on 08/20/2008 1:53:39 PM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; Velveeta

Ping.


113 posted on 08/20/2008 1:55:35 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: zencat
Norway's Defense Ministry says Russia has informed it that it plans to cut all military ties with NATO.

Who gives a sh@t.

114 posted on 08/20/2008 1:56:13 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: DemonDeac
The Russian bear is back and Putin is pulling the puppet strings. Thankfully our president was able to look into his soul.

Russia sent their "third string" ground troops into Georgia, a small country with no military. Looking back at them are battle hardened fighters from the US, GB, Poland, Turkey, France, Germany and countless other countries in the EU and NATO and former USSR satellites..

The Russians just blinked.....

115 posted on 08/20/2008 1:56:31 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Linden1209
NATO stands for North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Admittedly some of its members are a bit removed from the shores of the Atlantic Ocean...but not as far as Atlantic Blvd. in Los Angeles County is.

The newly aggressive stance taken by Russia is just in time for the Democrats next week to denounce Bush for reviving the Cold War.

116 posted on 08/20/2008 1:56:34 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Tallguy

Do we have appropriate interceptors down in FL?


117 posted on 08/20/2008 1:56:50 PM PDT by pangaea6
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To: ScreamingFist

“Russia sent their “third string” ground troops into Georgia, a small country with no military. Looking back at them are battle hardened fighters from the US, GB, Poland, Turkey, France, Germany and countless other countries in the EU and NATO and former USSR satellites..”

Except they know that nobody will do anything militarily against them unless they really step over the line.


118 posted on 08/20/2008 1:57:53 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: zencat

Drill here, drill now and send the Russian bear back into bankruptcy.


119 posted on 08/20/2008 2:01:10 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Niteranger68
Everyone stop for a minute and rethink the reasons we went into Iraq. Did we do it in order to bust up a secret relationship with Russia? Hummm.....

Didn't Iraq invasion of Kuwait and the UN have something to do with it?

120 posted on 08/20/2008 2:01:10 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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