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To: tpanther
Answers like that are my main complaint with YEC proponents.

They'll tell you why everone else's theories and methodologies are wrong, but when it comes time to do the real-world work, like finding oil deposits or determining the best places to build storage facilities for long term storage of nuclear waste, they can't tell you what theories and methodologies we shoud be using instead. All you get is some smartass reply.

That's not helping your case one bit.

712 posted on 08/21/2008 3:08:31 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

I think we’ve got finding oil down pretty well, I think the larger issue is getting godless liberals to drill for it.

Nuke storage...most likely the same.

I’ll even go out on a limb and suggest more believers contributed to these very tasks than non-believers did.

Last I checked we were focused on origins, and PLAINLY darwinism/ToE comes up short for alot of people, so normal intelligent folks simply propose that disorder, randomness, purposeless, “it just happened” theory is vacuous and perhaps there’s a BETTER explanation i.e. God created all we know, what appears as disorder, order may be found, and so on.

I truly don’t care where we go from there, but what I’M tired of is hearing stories like kids aren’t even allowed to even so much as HEAR ID/creation, and the godless liberal NEA agenda is so scared they won’t let these books be in their library much less ALLOW kids have access to them even on their own time.

We’ve seen godless liberals in schools from kindergarten all the way through graduate school with activist professors that are destroying the culture of this country.

Now, having said all that: something the godless should get used to...

their way has been an utter and complete and total failure.

they don’t get exclusively to decide what is or isn’t science.

they don’t exclusively get to set the agenda.

they don’t exclusively get to decide how much ‘free exercise’ thereof is PERMITTED to be TOLERATED in public as well as govt, education, media, etc.

they don’t get to exclusively intepret the Constituion etc. for everyone.

and normal mainstream folks need not concern themselves with their “approval, permission” what have you: providing proof and all that tired failed drivel.

For what it’s worth I’m still waiting for some of your teammates to show us why they think godless liberalism has proven itself over time as objective when it comes to:

journalism

politics

education (in general)

history

etc.

So get in line with your concerns.

So far they seem to think that godless liberalism in regards to science is A-OK concerning these subjects:

homosexuality is normal,

life doesn’t begin at conception,

and that science is the one exception where godless liberals can somehow remain objective.

I don’t know if you read where I proposed a so-called lesson plan could be as little as a paragraph, for starters, but I have a REAL problem with ANY side hijacking courts to silence others.

This issue about science is a microcosm of the disease of liberal “progressivism”, we’re in a virtual culture war that I believe will soon have to go back to the supreme court, ie Michael Newdow’s madness.

Godless liberals have decided to hijack courts to enforce their way on others, and it needs to cease.


713 posted on 08/21/2008 4:02:14 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: tacticalogic; tpanther

How exactly does evolution help scientists find oil deposits or build storage facilities for nuclear waste. Inquiring minds want to know.


722 posted on 08/21/2008 5:07:34 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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