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To: tpanther
The whole point is other capable SCIENTISTS believe that it’s inadequate for many plainly logical scientific reasons.

Then you will no doubt be able to tell what is the scientific alternative to evolution. what should the people in Louisiana be teaching, now that they have official authorization?

371 posted on 08/19/2008 2:09:54 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138; tpanther; GodGunsGuts

Evolution is not science, nor are its hypothetical basis’ science.


374 posted on 08/19/2008 2:24:18 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: js1138

Well, if you’re talking about people came from giant purple snails and catch spaceships in a comet tail, I think that’ll all work itself out.

Otherwise, I would allow teachers to present the two mainstream theories...but in most basic terms, and NOT form the NEA (i.e. the liberal hypocrat) playbook. THAT is a broken mess and everyone knows it!

I’m for teaching either we and all we know of came from nothing, randomly, with no purpose or explanations OR we did not. As basic as I can say it anyway.

One can present pros and cons, why we come to such conclusions, I really don’t care. As long as both sides are presented and in understandable ENGLISH language. If a teacher is prosyletizing, that too will work itself out, much like the wiccan or Michael Newdow types. I like to believe most teachers want to teach, and not preach (either way).

But pretending the majority are to just remain silent and sit still and don’t bring up God because there’s “no place for Him here”...I think you’ll lose 9 out of 10 kids on the very first day of science class.

But come to think of it, perhaps this is the goal all along, I dunno...with the godless hypocrat lib NEA agenda these days, one never knows I suppose...from forcing people to accept the scientific normalcy of homosexuality, to criminals inherit evil in their genes, to global warming, it truly makes one wonder just WHAT the NEA agenda is these days.

But if there were ever an argument that “it’s not science” there are myriad examples of it taught in science classes each and every day in this country with this tripe.

Not in a judgmental way, not in a critical way, not even in a religious way but just acknowledging that children naturally have this wonder about origins that should be openly discussed and NEITHER side should be ridiculed. Present, discuss, debate, move on.

It’s going to pop up in the next set of lessons so just acknowledge it and deal with it as so many generations before us did and did quite well I might add!

On one hand they learn in church, home and virtually everywhere else there’s a God (or not) and all too often in school that’s something to either keep secretive or in science class simply not acknowledge at all!

And you’re actually threatened if God is brought up! That runs from sitting in the hallway to being expelled or even being arrested!

That needs to end.

It’s a travesty that it was allowed to fester and come to this pont in this country in the first place! If a kid learns that church and science are at odds, chances are the next generation of kids will learn to teach not with understanding but with further partisanship!

Present the information and let them form their own conclusions, and both sides will win and science as well as everything outside science class will benefit.

If science is so pure, it can withstand religious zealots as well as giant purple snails.

I don’t propose kids be taught ID, creation or evolution in a way that excludes the other or sooo much time is spent on the differences, but when a kid asks: “Why did God make mosquitos”?, HOW is responding: “Now little Billy, you were taught on the first DAY of science class that ‘that’s not science’ “? actually benefitting him scientifically or otherwise?

It’s not that he’s not focused on science or wants attention, but he’ll certainly STAY unfocused and seek even MORE attention if Mom and Dad are Christian, teach him about God, acknowledge Him; and then along comes the NEA gestapo to ENSURE further confusion on his worldview!

NO WONDER kids are doing so poorly in govt. schools....the liberal NEA agenda has taken it upon themselves to socialize, NOT teach!

Frankly, it’s not a debate about science...otherwise global warming wouldn’t have had a leg to stand on!

Americans are Christian for the most part.

Godless libs need to get over it already! By trying to drive us underground, you won’t change minds and make this a liberal mecca one day, if anything it’ll backfire and fellow extremists on the other end of the spectrum will do what they can to ensure the silly fears of a theocracy are MORE likely realized.

Extremism merely breeds extremism. And being so afraid of God in science is extreme.


432 posted on 08/19/2008 6:17:08 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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