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To: wintertime

More to the point, science ignores religion. All of them. They have nothing to offer because the need for evidence is not consistent with faith.

What you perceive as hostility is simply indifference.

There are thousands of conflicting religions. Freedom in education cannot possibly mean teaching every creation story as an alternative to science in science classes. If the findings of science are intollerable to you, avoid science classes. But you are not going to change the nature of science or its findings.


219 posted on 08/18/2008 6:13:02 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
More to the point, science ignores religion. All of them. They have nothing to offer because the need for evidence is not consistent with faith.

What you perceive as hostility is simply indifference.

There are thousands of conflicting religions.

The number of world religions currently is estimated at about 4,300. Source

But:

34,000 separate Christian groups have been identified in the world. "Over half of them are independent churches that are not interested in linking with the big denominations." Source

Freedom in education cannot possibly mean teaching every creation story as an alternative to science in science classes.

I want this one taught! There is just as much evidence for this one as any of the others (i.e., none).

The Creation of Men and Women

When the world was finished, there were as yet no people, but the Bald Eagle was chief of the animals. He saw that the world was incomplete and decided to make some human beings. So he took some clay and modeled the figure of a man and laid him on the ground. At first he was very small but he grew rapidly until he reached normal size. But as yet he had no life; he was still asleep. Then the Bald Eagle stood and admired his work. "It is impossible," he said, "that he should be left alone; he must have a mate." So he pulled out a feather and laid it beside the sleeping man. Then he left them and went off a short distance, for he knew that a woman was being formed from the feather. But the man was still asleep and did not know what was happening. When the Bald Eagle decided that the woman was about completed, he returned, awoke the man by flapping his wings over him and flew away.

The man opened his eyes and stared at the woman. "What does this mean?" he asked. "I thought I was alone!" Then the Bald Eagle returned and said with a smile, "I see you have a mate! Have you had intercourse with her?" "No," replied he man, for he and the woman knew nothing about each other. Then the Bald Eagle called to Coyote who happened to be going by and said to him, "Do you see that woman? Try her first!" Coyote was quite willing and complied, but immediately afterwards lay down and died. The Bald Eagle went away and left Coyote dead, but presently returned and revived him. "How did it work?" said the Bald Eagle. "Pretty well, but it nearly kills a man!" replied Coyote. "Will you try it again?" said the Bald Eagle. Coyote agreed, and tried again, and this time survived. Then the Bald Eagle turned to the man and said, "She is all right now; you and she are to live together.

If the findings of science are intolerable to you, avoid science classes. But you are not going to change the nature of science or its findings.

That is the goal of creation "science." They can't win in the battle of scientific ideas, so they have to change science in the minds of the undereducated and the true believers. That's where we get "Teach the controversy" and "Its only a theory" and all the rest of the nonsense that we see so often.

But they have to go a far piece to beat the poster on this website who referred to the "second law of thermal documents!"

221 posted on 08/18/2008 6:24:25 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: js1138
There are thousands of conflicting religions. Freedom in education cannot possibly mean teaching every creation story as an alternative to science in science classes.

Or at least teaching the the most interesting several or so versions of Creation. Specifically...
Asatru
Judeo/Christian/Islam
Hindu
Buddhism
Shinto
Greek/Roman
Zoroastrianism

223 posted on 08/18/2008 6:33:23 PM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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