Posted on 08/18/2008 9:35:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Fortunately the early scientists always put the authority of Genesis over their empirical findings. Otherwise they might have stumbled into heresies like believing the earth moves.
Oh lookie there, yet MORE proof science somehow survived Christianity! What do ya know!
Meanwhile godless liberals expect us to accept the militant homosexual agenda as normal, that infanticide is a choice, and so on...ad infinatum.
ah yes...it’s important to make the masses aware of their errors, and there is a cost to that you know!
Fortunately the early scientists always put the authority of Genesis over their empirical findings. Otherwise they might have stumbled into heresies like believing the earth moves.
Oh lookie there, yet MORE proof science somehow survived Christianity! What do ya know!
Meanwhile godless liberals expect us to accept the militant homosexual agenda as normal, that infanticide is a choice, and so on...ad infinatum.
Yes, I can see that...such as when innocent life begins so you can feel justified in taking it.
But hell these days, their leaders feel fine in making sure even a botched abortion is seen through, and the one that is as far left as you can get on such a subject is at the top of their heap!
And that’s how it works without God.
I have yet to come across anywhere in the Bible proclaiming something that would be considered in contradiction to the heliocentric model. There is a reference to God "hanging the earth on nothing" in the Psalms - a pretty accurate description.
The "heresy" that Galileo committed was of being a layman that was commenting on creation, stepping on the Catholic Church's toes. It was a political, not a biblical, conflict.
I believe even enlightened modern astronomers and meteorologists use the terms "sunrise" and "sunset" and "the sun is going down / coming up" etc.
The differences in the view of God is what separates the Islamists from the Christians.
Muslims view it as "chaining Allah" to assume a predictable, discoverable set of rules in the universe.
Christians expect reasonable, elegant, predictable, repeatable, and discoverable rules based on the character of the Creator.
Look asshole, science is neither liberal nor conservative. All it requires is intellectual honesty and an IQ above room temperature. You seem to lack one of those virtues.
In this entire thread you have not once provided a straight answer as to what theory better explains the data accumulated by biologists and geologists over the past 200 years. You are like a sniveling welfare queen demanding respect without earning it. This is not self respect central. Unless you have something to add to the discussion of science , you neither merit nor receive respect.
Well just damn. You mean to say that for the first 1700 years of Christianity, there was no one smart enough to read the plain text of the Bible. But suddenly Newton and Halley come along and theologians can step in and say, see, I told you so all along.
==Have you looked at the mitochondrial DNA studies yet?...Seems that we’re all, worldwide, descended from one woman who lived around 6500 years ago.
Yes, I have. Response by the Temple of Darwin: “There must be some mistake!” The story is actually quite funny. Indeed, if you haven’t read it already, there’s an excellent layman’s summary right here. The Temple of Darwin really put their foot in it on this one!:
http://www.detectingdesign.com/dnamutationrates.html
You're only off by 133,500 years: Mitochondrial Eve
"Missed it by that much"
< /Maxwell Smart>
==You’re only off by 133,500 years
Wrong, you’re off by 133,500 years:
http://www.detectingdesign.com/dnamutationrates.html
Nope, seems that the original assumption of mutation rates was wrong to come up with that number.
That assumption, of course, was based on the circular reasoning of the assumption of billions of years.
Much too arcane to discuss here, but you, of course, will hold to your conclusion because it matches your worldview, despite evidence to the contrary, and I wouldn’t try to disavow you of that.
That's going to be a really helpful theory in helping to discover new oil deposits.
You realize that this is Stalinism, don't you? Stalin imprisoned or killed anyone who didn't agree with this.
Not that it makes it true or false.
If I remember correctly, due to flame-fests, threads getting pulled, and account bans, the mods specifically told us not to communicate with one another. I suggest we respect their wishes.
When you can come up with one Christian that wants anyone imprisoned or killed for not agreeing with GunsGodGuts (or that idea), you tell us and we’ll have a stern talk with him.
You could simply respond to the post. I have not attacked you.
I merely point out that your interpretation of epigenetics is indistinguishable from Lysenkoism. That would be the theory of biology favored by stalin, and which resulted in the starvation death of millions of people.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
LOL!!!!!!
That is more true than they realize.
I merely point out that GGG's theory of inheritance was thoroughly tested in Stalin's Soviet Union. It resulted in the deaths of millions of people.
Those who refuse to learn from history are condemned to repeat it. I think I will stick with the mods on this one.
Actually, it was the belief in atheistic evolution that justified the deaths of millions.
GGG is arguing from the standpoint of the parent or original organism having all of the ability to adapt without adding DNA information as is required for the evo theory.
Since this viewpoint puts a high value on the human life and soul, his theory would not result in the deaths of those highly valued people, but more likely in the preservation of more that are considered “inconvenient” today.
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