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Children Stealing Gold in Beijing
Pajamas Media ^ | August 17, 2008 | Gordon Chang

Posted on 08/17/2008 10:11:47 AM PDT by AJKauf

Chinese coaches tried to hide the ages of the girls with “enough makeup to shame a drag queen,” but no amount of lipstick and eyeliner can hide the fact that the American gymnasts have curves and breasts and the Chinese ones don’t. On average, the girls on the Chinese team are 3.5 inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter than their American counterparts....

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; china; olympics
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To: indcons

Yes, pointing out genetic differences makes me a troll... Ever seen a 21 year old Thai, or Malay woman? Compare them to a 16 year old American teenager - straight up.

Looks are quire deceiving when you go across races...


41 posted on 08/17/2008 11:17:15 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: buwaya
The average American or European in a crowd in Hong Kong cannot fail to understand the physical differences. There are racial differences in build, height, etc.

Which is why I asked my female Chinese friend what her opinion was. She said "those girls are maybe 13 years old".

42 posted on 08/17/2008 11:17:56 AM PDT by jdub
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To: Melinda in TN

(are there tests that can verify ages?)


43 posted on 08/17/2008 11:17:59 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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To: AJKauf

The misnomer on the part of pajamasmedia must be noted: children are stealing anything. The Chinese gov’t, however, is...


44 posted on 08/17/2008 11:19:09 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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To: lainie
(I meant aren't, of course)
45 posted on 08/17/2008 11:19:40 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

“12 years ago, 15 year old American teens looked like 15 year olds. Now 12 year old American girls look like they are 17.”

The main reason being higher percentage of bodyfat due to more sedentary lifestyles - something gymnasts from all countries do not suffer from.

I will repeat my observations.
Chinese girls who are adopted by americans and placed in gymnastics programs will not appear to be 10 years old when they are really 16.
16 year olds from any country will not retain baby teeth.
16 year old chinese gymnasts, in past olympic games (except for Athens) looked older than these girls.


46 posted on 08/17/2008 11:19:49 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Melinda in TN

My physical therapist is a 46 year old Thai grandmother (her grandson is 5 years old). When I arrived for my first session I thought she was the receptionist. I was shocked she wasn’t the 22 I thought, and that she had two advanced degrees.

For a 5 foot tall, 100 pound woman she can seriously wrench on a limb!


47 posted on 08/17/2008 11:21:31 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: org.whodat

That’d be a good SNL skit - having to take a timeout to change diapers.


48 posted on 08/17/2008 11:23:19 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: AJKauf

A great summary. One has to wonder about a sport where being 12 is an advantage that can not be overcome. Perhaps these events should simply be eliminated. They are chlidish.


49 posted on 08/17/2008 11:24:19 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Melinda in TN

“I don’t see a lot of curves on any of them, American or Chinese,”

Our girls had hips and breasts.
Our girls faces looked older.
Our girls had their adult teeth.
And the big giveaway - old articles about our girls in american competition consistently report their true age.

Older girls will also dance better and give a more mature presentation on beam and floor.

On the night of team competition the chinese put up a girl so immature she could not dance and was walking around the mat.
I was embarrassed for her.


50 posted on 08/17/2008 11:25:34 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Age of Chinese gymnast under scrutiny; Apparent conflict raises question about girl who won gold
51 posted on 08/17/2008 11:25:40 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Jack Black

“A great summary. One has to wonder about a sport where being 12 is an advantage that can not be overcome. Perhaps these events should simply be eliminated. They are chlidish.”

That isn’t entirely true.
It is a distinct advantage on uneven bars.

However, being older and mature can be an advantage when it comes to vault, tumbling, and showing grace and maturity while dancing.

That is why older girls won the all-around.


52 posted on 08/17/2008 11:27:52 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: AJKauf
30 pounds lighter than their American counterparts....

Michael Phelps ate all their food.......

53 posted on 08/17/2008 11:28:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: TruthWillWin

Look closer...she may be short, but she is a woman. Unlike the Chinese in diapers.


54 posted on 08/17/2008 11:28:58 AM PDT by Stayfree (***************************************IF IT IS LEFT, IT CAN'T BE RIGHT!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Then penalize them. I’m not condoning the action or cheating at all! I’m just saying that you can’t just look and assume their age. Some races just look younger and stay smaller and slimmer and flatter than others.

Looks ARE deceiving...


55 posted on 08/17/2008 11:29:39 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: AJKauf

Other than not following the OIC rules, which is not a good precedent for other reasons, I could care less. Let whoever’s best win - no matter what age they are. If a 9 or 14 year old can whoop up on their elders who have had much more time to practice & hone their skills, all the more power to them I say.


56 posted on 08/17/2008 11:30:15 AM PDT by MCH
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To: Dr. Frank fan

You hit the nail on the head. Was watching a bit of coverage and the announcer said that after the last games, China did a study on the medal heavy sports, focused their efforts on where they could get the most golds, and then set about to dominate those sports.

It’s gotta be a communist self-esteem thing. Reminds me of the East German “women” swimmers of the 70’s and 80’s. Those women had more facial hair than I did due to steroids and blood doping.


57 posted on 08/17/2008 11:30:23 AM PDT by MissouriConservative (Never pick a fight with an ugly person; they've got nothing to lose.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

In all likelihood, the Chinese will get away with it. People are too intimidated.


58 posted on 08/17/2008 11:34:15 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: PLMerite
The whole purpose of my post was, to say, either file a protest are stop whining.
59 posted on 08/17/2008 11:34:37 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: AJKauf

I agree with your article.

There are medical tests to determine age like the ossification of bones.

Well the IOC do it?

I am not hopeful.


60 posted on 08/17/2008 11:35:56 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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