Posted on 08/17/2008 10:09:06 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
SAN ANGELO, Texas — Child welfare authorities have decided court supervision is no longer needed for 34 more children taken in the raid on the Fundamentalist LDS Church's YFZ Ranch.
Texas Child Protective Services filed papers here Thursday seeking to "non-suit" 10 cases involving 34 children, said agency spokesman Patrick Crimmins. That is in addition to 32 children non-suited earlier this month.
(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...
And, it’s absolutely not true.
The proper LE officials and a CPS representative waited outside the delivery room, and were there to ‘ensure’ custody of the child was maintained, after birth.
They didn’t grab the child from the woman’s birth canal and run off with it.
That only happened in Saundra’s mind.
“But hey, if you get your kids taken from you because your neighbor and dozens of other people have reported you are having sex with them.......
“Children are better off in a polygamous family than becoming wards of the state.”
Unless that polygamy includes having sex with the children.
I am sure that the FLDS members considered their ‘practices’ to be GODLY, and acceptable.
Problem is, it is against the law to have sex with minors if you are over a certain age.
And... polygamy is against the law as well.
So, you are saying that leaving them in an environment that practices illegal acts is better than being placed in an inspected, and monitored foster home.
“In fact, I think the state is the worst place for children to be placed, under nearly all circumstances.”
I am sure Caylee Anthony agrees with you.
It was reported that CPS went out several times, and found no abuse.
Then a woman posing as a girl who lived there, reported she had been abused, the state rounded the women and kids up and put them in shelters.
Of corse the woman that called in had never been there.
“It was reported that CPS went out several times, and found no abuse.”
If you don’t mind me asking, do you have a source for that?
What I remember is that CPS went out several times, and was refused to enter the dorms, or homes, or the temple, period.
The CPS had to get a search warrant to enter the property, and when they did... the rest is history.
“Then a woman posing as a girl who lived there, reported she had been abused, the state rounded the women and kids up and put them in shelters.”
Overreaching on the ‘women’ being rounded up, aren’t we?
The women went voluntarily to be with their children, which the CPS does not normally allow, but did in this case, considering the situation.
“The courts are filled with domestic abuse and child abuse cases from monogamous relationships...does monogamy therefore cause abuse?”
NO, but monogamy is not against the law.
The courts are filled with domestic abuse and child abuse cases from drug-addicted relationships....does drug addiction therefore cause abuse?
?
Why is polygamy against the law?
“You can’t legally hide behind the veil of a religion, or a cult, to commit crimes.’
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe they were exonerated of any criminal behavior by the Texas court?
Let me read your refutation of the math. Each extra wife means a male must be eliminated from the group, which requires brutality on a scale not known to monogamy. Your puerile dreams of plenty of sex are clouding your judgement. I reject your ad hominem attacks as you know nothing of my research or political leanings. You may want to check out these sites detailing the degradation caused by consanguineous marriages (which are also a mathematical result of polygamy). Obviously you wouldn’t know what that word means but you can find out by clicking some of these links.
Genetic Disorders of the Arab World
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/333/7573/831?etoc
Global Prevalence of Consanguineous Marriages (Map)
http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence
References for that map
http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence_references
The Risks of Marrying Cousins
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442010.stm
Fumerase Deficiency among FDLS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumarase_deficiency
There have already been several indictments, with more expected to come.
what “puerile dreams of more sex” ? whose judgement is clouded here? I’m a female who supports the notion that whatever CONSENTING ADULTS do in their own homes is their own business... shocking eh?
I too could pick out 5 articles that lean whatever way I choose.. I’m not talking about muslims or underage sex or any other nonsense that has NOTHING to do with a man marrying multiple women who love him as he loves them.\
Stop the ignorant prejudice and get with the program.
there are good laws and bad laws.. just because something is legal doesn’t make it right, and just because something is illegal doesn’t make it wrong.
but hey..just because there’s been absolutely NO PROOF of anyone having sex with kids doesn’t mean squat to you.
From the article:
“The Texas Supreme Court ruled child welfare authorities overstepped in taking all the children from their parents even though many were infants and toddlers and the state failed to show any more than handful of teenage girls were abused or at risk.”
No convictions yet. No mass child orgies as originlly thought. Doesn’t seem like a religion created to hide child crimes.
From the televison documentaries I’ve seen on the FLDS, they appear a lot more religious than some “Christians” I know.
And to illustrate my point re bias and aspersion of relgious beliefs outside of orthodoxy on FR, please read this comment from a thread today:
To: MeanWestTexan
Since when it Mitt a conservative? A week before Mitt decided to run for office he was pro-abortion, anti-gun, socialized medicine, pro-gay “union,” and raised taxes (and called it “fees”).
Don’t waste your time talking to that Kolobite, he believes in the “Prophet” Joey Smith and that other fraud, the book of mormon.
“just because there’s been absolutely NO PROOF of anyone having sex with kids doesn’t mean squat to you.”
Yes it does.
Matter of fact I am looking forward to finding out whether the proof they do have is enough to convict any of the men, or women.
Those court cases haven’t even started yet.
“just because something is legal doesn’t make it right, and just because something is illegal doesn’t make it wrong.”
And when something is illegal, sooner or later the law gets involved.
In this case, the alleged activities, whether the FLDS thought them wrong or right, were illegal.
“And to illustrate my point re bias and aspersion of relgious beliefs outside of orthodoxy on FR”
And... isn’t that the real reason you are on these threads?
The real reason anyone is on any thread is to discuss and debate, duh.
My intial argumnet was that Freepers are biased against LDS.
After showing my point, you argue with a jab at my motives, not the issue at hand. You lose the debate.
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