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To: maclay

If Russia plans on invading Ukraine, they will certainly need to spend a lot more money on their Armed forces...


2 posted on 08/16/2008 9:59:46 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: chilepepper

Ukraine , Poland and the Baltic have to become a fortress impenetrable from ground or air. It is only a question of time when mad Vlad has another fit of lust for conquest.


3 posted on 08/16/2008 10:05:40 AM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: chilepepper
I've watched Russia/USSR for more than 3 decades now. Geopolitics is a very dangerous place to play in. Intrigue comes in more layers than any one person can fully grasp. The best world leaders are able to surround themselves with the best advisers - should they choose to. At that level money is no object.

The all-inclusive ‘soviet’ labeled KGB leaders have one lesson that they can teach our strategic thinkers and planners:

No matter how boneheaded the underlying motivations, whatever you are going to do in the realm of geopolitics, you do very quickly and decisively.

Present a structured, free modern society with a fait acompli and as long as it doesn't interrupt daily life for the vast majority of it's citizens, they will as a country, whine, bitch and complain randomly and deafeningly - and do nothing of substance to change the new geopolitical reality.

Do it fast and dirty and the resistance going forward will be minimal. Any other way and resistance will be significantly greater to the point most geopolitical goals with empire-building at their heart will be destined to failure.

An antimissile installation in Poland to protect us from a nuclear attack launched from the middle east has the approximate same emotional effect as Russia basing an antimissile installation in a newly independent Republic of Texas, to counter a possible nuclear missile strike from Canada.

Ukraine joining NATO will have the same effect as above, but with Florida and (our)Georgia thrown into a military alliance with Cuba and Venezuela.

These two moves, along with placing the Sec State on the ground in the middle of a new combat zone while our military does ‘humanitarian’ resupply is more than it seems. The response, or lack thereof, to the security bubbles that come with the Sec State and US military was the first test/confirmation that while the Russians are again doing the ‘Quick and Dirty’, they are doing it at far greater geopolitical expense than they previously thought, while seeming to barely be able to exert command and control protocols over their troops in theater.

All in all, not good for the Russians.

When asked what we should do, many people have voiced some version of, “...’em back to the stone ages”. And that's our emotional reaction the the aggression launched against a new democratically elected Republic. That thought will help you when you try to understand the mindset of the old line KGB infrastructure that runs Russia currently. Before that, they ran the USSR. Consider for a moment their losses.

What we have done is stop them in their tracks, and get the Ukraine and Poland to fall our way and exposed the Russians as not quite ready for Primetime.

I for one, can not think of a better time for us to write a Godfather-like ending to the Iranian Conundrum, using the tried and proven tactic of ‘Quick and Dirty’.

Unlike the Russians, as news stories in the coming weeks will expose ...

... we have the technology.

7 posted on 08/16/2008 1:48:12 PM PDT by Scotsman
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