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To: onewhowatches
"Except that they don't have the same set of facts. Individual experience is part of the facts that a person has. So are things like emotional state, how tired a person is, whether they have to go to the bathroom, etc., etc., etc."

That's why I said that your argument is akin to saying that since the molecular configuration of the universe can never be identical, that it can't rain.

599 posted on 08/16/2008 5:24:00 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
"Except that they don't have the same set of facts. Individual experience is part of the facts that a person has. So are things like emotional state, how tired a person is, whether they have to go to the bathroom, etc., etc., etc."

That's why I said that your argument is akin to saying that since the molecular configuration of the universe can never be identical, that it can't rain.

Whether it's raining or not is the output. That has nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make, which has to do with the input.

You're saying, if I'm understanding correctly, that the proof that the mind has a non-material component is that the same input to two minds can have different outputs.

What I'm saying is that the experience that a person has is also part of the set of input. Experiences differs from person to person and cannot be controlled for. Therefore the differences in the output may be attributable to the uncontrollable part of the input, whether or not there is a non-material component to the mind.

656 posted on 08/17/2008 7:29:24 PM PDT by onewhowatches
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