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To: allmendream
"And how do you propose then to measure God? Do you think you can get God to act for you reproducibly in the lab? Unless you can do so then God is forever beyond the realms of Scientific analysis, as HE said HE would be. Heb11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. God tells you to have faith in HIM. Apparently that isn't enough for those who think they need to measure HIM to know HE is there."

So do you now understand that your belief in 'hypothetical, abiogenic processes' is no different than a belief in God?

Do you now understand that your belief that mutations occur only when an opportunity for survival presents itself is due to an inability to think critically?

437 posted on 08/15/2008 12:25:24 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
I believe in both abiotic processes AND God. What is to prevent God from using abiotic processes when HE commanded the Oceans to bring forth life?

How do you suppose I believe that mutations occur only when an opportunity for survival presents itself? They usually only PERSIST within a population (and perhaps rise to 100% presence in the population) when it confers some survival advantage.

Mutations happen all the time, there is no way to stop it as DNA replication is itself a mutagenic process. Mutations are usually selectively neutral, most mutations that are not neutral are detrimental (as the nylon digesting mutations would be until nylon was invented and available as a food source) and some are beneficial but only within a certain context (like mutations that make proteins that work better at higher temperatures).

This in no way suggest that mutations only HAPPEN when they would confer some advantage. Sheesh. Maybe if you understood even the rudiments of the theory you wish to criticize you wouldn't’ sound so ignorant.

443 posted on 08/15/2008 12:35:43 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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