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To: kabar

From your #52

“What you have said is not correct. It is our legal immigration policies and the high birthrate among Hispanic immigrants that have driven up the population of Hispanics in this country, not NAFTA.”

My first comment on this thread, #21

“And what is it that happened exactly fifteen years ago? NAFTA did exactly what opponents said it would do. But its advocates said it would DECREASE illegal immigration. And those same folks are advocating more “free trade” agreements, using the same old lies.”

That statement is 100% correct. You responded to it by going off on all sorts of tangents and getting into future population growth. You have presented a lot of good information which I am familiar with, but it did not really relate to what I said originally, or in later posts.

You haven’t refuted anything because there was nothing to refute. You are just intent on presenting your facts, even when they didn’t really relate to what I’ve said.


56 posted on 08/13/2008 12:22:28 PM PDT by Will88 (.)
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To: Will88
“And what is it that happened exactly fifteen years ago? NAFTA did exactly what opponents said it would do. But its advocates said it would DECREASE illegal immigration. And those same folks are advocating more “free trade” agreements, using the same old lies.”

But your response was keyed to the following statement that you highlighted: “The Hispanic population in the United States has more than doubled in the past 15 years”

NAFTA is not the reason why the Hispanic population has doubled in the past 15 years. I provided you with the reasons why.

You haven’t refuted anything because there was nothing to refute. You are just intent on presenting your facts, even when they didn’t really relate to what I’ve said.

I am trying to educate you on the subject. I am an activist with a local grassroots organization that deals with immigration issues. I have been lobbying on the Hill for several years on this issue. Based on your statements, you have an inflated idea as to how much you know about the subject.

57 posted on 08/13/2008 12:37:53 PM PDT by kabar
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