[informavoracious]

VLL, I agree with you. There are true chromosomal abnormalities, and there are other cases where genetic expression is very clear but there is a mental or spiritual issue. If a baby is born with Down Syndrome, and undergoes eyelid surgery to alter facial characteristics in order not to appear to have Down's, it does not change the genetic fact of an extra chromosome. The same with a genetic male or female. Using surgical or chemical means to 'change' sex does not alter the XY or XX chromosomes people are born with.

Lots of people feel out of place doing the stereotypical pastimes associated with their gender. That doesn't mean you have to start cutting off body parts. Many men prefer cooking to getting loaded with the guys and hooting at steroid cases on sports fields. I am a woman, and I loathe vapid talk about nail polish and hairstyles. I have also been told I 'think like a man' and have occasionally been mistaken for one on this forum.

I feel for those who are in devastating states of confusion. We all have our crosses to bear.

Bear Slayer, peace. I don't agree with equating a 9-legged baby with gender identity issues. Clearly, a baby human is not supposed to have more than two legs. That is not the same as altering normal, functioning body parts that match genetic sex expression. I have not seen transsexualism scientifically 'proven' to be a physiological abnormality. And to complicate things, there are factions who believe masculinity and femininity are merely social constructs and that there are no differences in how men and women think and feel except those oir culture imposes. These are the people who want more girls in math and science and rough sports, whether they want to be there or not. It really is very complicated, with numerous opposing and mutually exclusive viewpoints.

[Bear_Slayer]

Right, you agree with VLL.

Having a true YX chromosome gives you a penis, and a hairy body, and larger muscle capacity, and

The capacity to think like a woman

to enjoy cooking

TO have interest in women's fashions

to have interests in women's activities.

&etc almost endlessly.

You mean to tell me that those XY or XX cromosomes determine the innate characteristics that typically separate the male and female species?

I was born anatomically male, but there is something drastically different about me than other males.

I can't change me no more than you can change who you are.

Something happened when I was being developed in my mother's womb. I first understood and the age of 3 (I won't go into the details) I didn't make me happened and I tried very hard through life to change me. I can't change my sould, my nature. In fact, all it does is suppress an make me frustrated and at times angry.

Trying going through life denying and supressing self expression.