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IDF vets train NY Jewish paramilitaries
The Jerusalem Post ^ | July 25, 2008 | HAVIV RETTIG

Posted on 07/27/2008 8:41:08 AM PDT by ChicagoHebrew

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21 posted on 07/27/2008 9:24:15 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: ExpatGator

what does this have to do with an attack in 2002

Sorry this does not pass the sniff test and reminds me of what is going on in Russia with paramitary bodyguards


22 posted on 07/27/2008 9:28:03 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: ExpatGator

wow

The anti Semite card

Excuse me for questioning the harboring of foreign troops on our shores
I say get the Israeli military out of the US now


23 posted on 07/27/2008 9:33:35 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

You said: “That’s a lie
The artcle (sp) clearly states these are israeli(sp) military led forces”

I say: With grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors not considered, you could not show your ignorance any more clearly. The following is the pertinent info from the article introducing the cast of characters:

“Yonatan Stern, the “Sgan Mefaked Hakita” (deputy squad commander) of Kitat Konenut New York, insists his “paramilitary emergency armed response team” is no “group of vigilantes or a JDL [Jewish Defense League].”

“The goal of the organization is to have a competent and professional group of armed volunteers ready to respond to a threat at a moment’s notice in any area where Jews reside,” explains the Israeli combat veteran.”

Please point us to the tidbit of evidence that this Israeli combat vet is not a U.S. citizen, or is still in the IDF. Who is obfuscating the issue?


24 posted on 07/27/2008 9:38:16 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: spanalot

You asked the question about Jews being attacked.

I provided indisputable evidence.

You weaseled.

How wonderfully predictable.


25 posted on 07/27/2008 9:40:40 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Roccus

how does a couple muggings and rock throwing going back 20 years justify Israeli paramilitary in this Country?


26 posted on 07/27/2008 9:41:09 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: STONEWALLS
Hey. The muzzies have had such a thing just a little upstate in NY for some time. And the effeminate authorities do squat while the muzzie rats fire automatic weapons. Good for the Jews to arm themselves. We should be doing the same thing.
27 posted on 07/27/2008 9:41:34 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: spanalot

“Excuse me for questioning the harboring of foreign troops on our shores
I say get the Israeli military out of the US now”

What a bunch of bomb-throwing hyperbole! Put down the energy drink and re-read the article.


28 posted on 07/27/2008 9:42:49 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
I pray that I can get my rabbi to think more like this.
29 posted on 07/27/2008 9:47:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: spanalot

Muggings? See El Al post. You are a real piece of work.


30 posted on 07/27/2008 9:47:48 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: spanalot

All I said was to keep an eye on CH and give you my back up since you were too lazy to take the hint I gave you in post #10.

Have a nice day.


31 posted on 07/27/2008 9:49:55 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: ExpatGator

You argue like a liberal.

Would you be in favor of Muslim militas? If so, maybe we can get the military of Jordan or Syria to train them.


32 posted on 07/27/2008 9:56:16 AM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: isrul

” Good for the Jews to arm themselves.”
...I’m shoulder to shoulder with them on this...

“We should be doing the same thing.”
....indeed!....and many of us are.
people who have been putting off getting a gun/ammo might want to objectively consider their situation should Obama/Pelosi/Reid gain control in Nov.


33 posted on 07/27/2008 9:56:51 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: isrul; STONEWALLS; XeniaSt; ExpatGator
Hey. The muzzies have had such a thing just a little upstate in NY for some time.

Here is the Muslim training facility in Upstate NY...

Islamberg is a branch of Muslims of the Americas Inc., a tax-exempt organization formed in 1980 by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," Gilani, has been directly linked by court documents to Jamaat ul-Fuqra or "community of the impoverished," an organization that seeks to "purify" Islam through violence.

The 70 acre complex is surrounded with "No trespassing" signs; the rocky terrain is infested with rattlesnakes; and the woods are home to black bears, coyotes, wolves, and a few bobcats.

Venturing into the complex last summer, Douglas Hagmann, an intrepid investigator and director of the Northeast Intelligence Service, came upon a military training area at the eastern perimeter of the property. The area was equipped with ropes hanging from tall trees, wooden fences for scaling, a make-shift obstacle course, and a firing range. Hagmann said that the range appeared to have been in regular use.

Islamberg is not as benign as a Buddhist monastery or a Carmelite convent. Nearly every weekend, neighbors hear sounds of gunfire. Some, including a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, have heard the bang of small explosives.

Over the years, numerous members of Jamaat ul-Fuqra have been convicted in US courts of such crimes as conspiracy to commit murder, firebombing, gun smuggling, and workers' compensation fraud. Others remain leading suspects in criminal cases throughout the country, including ten unsolved assassinations and seventeen fire-bombings between 1979 and 1990.

The criminal charges against the group and the criminal convictions are not things of the past. In 2001, a resident of a California compound was charged with first-degree murder in the shooting of a sheriff's deputy; another was charged with gun-smuggling' and twenty-four members of the Red House community were convicted of firearms violations.

By 2004 federal investigators uncovered evidence that linked both the DC "sniper killer" John Allen Muhammed and "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid to the group and reports surfaced that Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was captured and beheaded in the process of attempting to obtain an interview with Sheikh Gilani in Pakistan.

http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Islamberg-Upstate-New-York.htm

34 posted on 07/27/2008 10:01:17 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: ExpatGator

it looks like the trolls are out again

Did you read the title or do you get paid to obfuscate


35 posted on 07/27/2008 10:01:48 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: ChicagoHebrew

A Very Good Thing,,,


36 posted on 07/27/2008 10:05:54 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

I’ve used nothing but facts, which is quite un-lib like.

There are already muslim militias. Just as there are christian militias in this country. The IDF is not training people here, or there. This is an individual, who could actually be an American citizen. Is there any proof otherwise??????? Even if he is not a citizen, is he still in the IDF?

I’m a veteran of our U.S. Armed Forces. If I train a member of a so called militia to shoot would it mean that the U.S. is training militias??? That is what you posit with your ridiculous comments.


37 posted on 07/27/2008 10:06:44 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: spanalot

IDF VETS. VETS!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?

Does not mean it is the state of Israel. Damn, why is that so hard to understand?

As I stated in another post: I’m a veteran of the U.S. military. If I train someone in a militia to shoot, is that the U.S. training them? No.

Troll huh? Call names when your argument sucks? Great tactic, on the playground. Come on, sink my argument.


38 posted on 07/27/2008 10:11:51 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: TLI
Hope this awakens some folks. Thanks for posting it.
39 posted on 07/27/2008 10:19:47 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: STONEWALLS
I'm sure the next firearm I buy will be illegal. So I might as well get one that's damn effective.
40 posted on 07/27/2008 10:22:08 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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