Japan hasn't fought half a dozen serious border wars resulting in thousands of dead troops. China has. Japan doesn't routinely engage in minor, but armed border clashes with its neighbors. China does.
I have read some of the cases. There was one case where an accused who thought a particular item that was made public was okay to bring to China. It cost him 30+ years. Some of them appear to have been poor judgement that resulted in extremely long prison sentences. I believe, when it comes to China, we are back in the McCarthy era.
What does made public mean - it was shown at an airshow? Spare me the Chinese lies.
How long ago was that? BTW, the US appear to be more involved with Pakistan than China.
Actually, this was in the past several years. The US has paid Pakistan a few billion dollars, and released some old technology in order to get transit rights to Afghanistan without fighting a full-scale war with Pakistan. We have not, however, given Pakistan nuclear weapons plans.
And has also worked with the US on the six-party talks and have been praised by the Bush Administration (your own government).
Wait - isn't that *our* own government? I forget - you're a US citizen who considers himself first and foremost a Chinese national.
The US has done her share of proping of dictators. Don't forget, Russia also vetoed sanctions against Mugabe as well. And Russia has more nuclear missles (by far) than China. Russia also has openly and publicly stated that they will build a dozen or so SSBN's by the end of the next decade. Yet, China gets attention for having just one.
China has three, and is in the process of building more. But the point is that the Cold War is over. Neither side ought to be propping up dictators. China is propping up dictators in North Korea, Burma, Zimbabwe. (Note that during the 70's, Chinese Red Guards were on hand to help Cambodia's Khmer Rouge carry out its Year Zero purge that killed just under 2 million Cambodians (including large numbers of ethnic Chinese).
How much? And are they still doing it? Is it a concerted government effort? There are people in the US that has done shady deals outside the juridiction of the government. I'm sure it has occured in China as well. But China has no incentive to aid the Taliban.
Rumsfeld was unwrapping freshly made Chinese weaponry captured from the Taliban, over six months after 9/11. The Chinese incentive is secondarily to profit from arms sales, but primarily to weaken what China sees as its main enemy.
Another difference, Japan invaded all the surrounding countries throughout the pacific. Prior to, it went on a massive military build up that consumed it's entire industrial capacity. And China, like Japan today, use it's current industrial capcity for civilian pursuits..
China has spent most of its two thousand years of existence conquering and slaughtering its way across Northeast Asia. China is what Japan failed to become - an continental-sized empire built at the point of a sword. Japan is now quiescent. China isn't.
I still stand by my conclusion. China is folding herself into the global economy. The development of a system that had a significant about of US influence. And now that they are practicing capitalism and free market, effectively joining the economic system of the free world, it isn't appreciated. I'm convinced some Americans would just prefer they return to communism where they could be kept in a bottle.
I've never felt Chinese communism to be the problem for either us or China's neighbors. The problem has always been a Chinese will to universal empire, whether under communists or non-communists.
Observing the political spectrum for the last three decades, I can only conclude, that many American are simply uncomfortable with an industrialized non-Western country. If China had gone down the road and devoted her energies into other types of economic pursuits, like what Mexico did in building up Cancun or even what the Emirates did with Dubai, I'm sure China would not get as much flak as it does now. But because it chooses to build autos, airplanes, and launch satellites, it begins to tread on sacrid ground. Much like the Japanese did decades ago.
That's ridiculous. We're not uncomfortable with Japan. The main problem with Japan was its protectionism. They exported to us and slapped all kinds of restrictions on our exports to them. The problem with China is the same. They export to us, but we can't export to them without having to pay high tariffs. I think the main problem with the Chinese is that they see themselves as racially superior and not subject to rules like other inferior peoples.
What are you trying to tell me? Honestly, how can you make this argument? Border wars with Russia, there has been peace and discussion between the two countries. Same with India and with Vietnam. Some disagreements continue (such as Spratly Islands with Vietnam), but hardly engagements to the level of the past. Even disagreements with Japan has subsided.
What does made public mean - it was shown at an airshow? Spare me the Chinese lies.
Not at an airshow. But I'm satisfied with claims that some of the individuals made in regards to their misunderstanding of security. Those that got 30 years. I still stick to my original claim. We are in the McCarthy area in regards to China. Not Russia anymore, but China.
We have not, however, given Pakistan nuclear weapons plans.
Is China still doing that? How long ago did that occur?
Wait - isn't that *our* own government? I forget - you're a US citizen who considers himself first and foremost a Chinese national.
I give you credit for your ability to side step my comment. But, yes, you're right, "our" government. I have in the past used that term when speaking of the US and some thought I was speaking of another, so I wanted to avoid the confusion. And I will continue to do so to avoid confusion.
China has three, and is in the process of building more. But the point is that the Cold War is over.
I believe China only has one SSBN that is active. Whatever China does have, it will for the next two decades be less than what Russia has or will have. Russia recently annouced the building of 5-6 carriers starting in 2012. Russia will without a doubt, be spending a higher portion of her GDP toward military than China over the next couple of decades. That, I can gurantee you. And it will be Russia and not China that make military overtures toward the US in the future. Though, on the FR, China will get more attention for her military.
Neither side ought to be propping up dictators. China is propping up dictators in North Korea, Burma, Zimbabwe. (Note that during the 70's, Chinese Red Guards were on hand to help Cambodia's Khmer Rouge carry out its Year Zero purge that killed just under 2 million Cambodians (including large numbers of ethnic Chinese).
I will agree with you to a point. In that if it was Russia alone that was propping up dictators, it would not receive that much flak on the FR. But since China has some influence, it gets a dispproportionate amount of attention.
Rumsfeld was unwrapping freshly made Chinese weaponry captured from the Taliban, over six months after 9/11. The Chinese incentive is secondarily to profit from arms sales, but primarily to weaken what China sees as its main enemy.
Once again, are they still doing it and if a rogue segment of the government or people inside of China do these activities, is it a representation of China?
China has spent most of its two thousand years of existence conquering and slaughtering its way across Northeast Asia. China is what Japan failed to become - an continental-sized empire built at the point of a sword. Japan is now quiescent. China isn't.
I've never felt Chinese communism to be the problem for either us or China's neighbors. The problem has always been a Chinese will to universal empire, whether under communists or non-communists.
That's a very far reaching conclusion you are making.
That's ridiculous. We're not uncomfortable with Japan. The main problem with Japan was its protectionism. They exported to us and slapped all kinds of restrictions on our exports to them. The problem with China is the same. They export to us, but we can't export to them without having to pay high tariffs. I think the main problem with the Chinese is that they see themselves as racially superior and not subject to rules like other inferior peoples.
Tariffs exists between all countries. If they didn't, then a business could just ship their products no questions asked to another country including the US. But tariffs do exists. Products like bicycles, rifles, etc. that are shipped into the US are subject to tariffs.
I'm not naive nor unaware of what people say or think in America. I have, afterall worked in and around blue collar workers for over two decades. I can hear what people are saying (and not saying). I can only conclude, that industrialization of a non-Western nation is unacceptable to some Americans. Not the Ivy Leaguers that run this country, but the guys that Toby Keith speak to.