[JoJo Gunn]

You spout words like "idealism" and "realism" and it seems to me, are missing the applications of the latter here.

I'm not "spouting" anything. I ask for tangible proof, and so many begin talking of subjective reality, like yourself.

If you don't want your feelings hurt, then provide proof instead of what you know.

[Finny]

Where have I indicated my feelings are hurt?

You believe that if you don't have tangible proof, it didn't happen. I KNOW that things happen for which there is no tangible proof.

That's the difference.

[Finny]

Also, to provide proof, judging from what I've written, you should conclude that providing proof would entail a military-style armed conflict to steal the proof from the military areas that have confiscated it.

Because you haven't gotten over a couple of hoops, you are still stuck on "Where's the proof?" I maintain that it is illogical to dismiss such a weight of other evidence in lieu of physical evidence that can be suppressed.

How is "subjective reality" not an oxymoron?