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To: andysandmikesmom
"I am always open to the possibility, that life exists elsewhere other than earth...?

Have you considered the possibility of life existing on Earth, which doesn't conform to the understanding of life as perceived via empiricism or rationalism, but is instead perceptible through faith alone in Christ alone?

An interesting facet of many UFO phenomenon is that reports of their existence are similar to reports of the spiritual domain.

Furthermore, if people are unable to exercise simple faith to receive that system of perception, why would anybody expect more physical proof of 'alien' life, which might be more associated with the spiritual domain than of the physical?

IMHO, too many people read more into the UFO reports than what is actually reported, which might reveal far more into their reality than we may want to understand.

660 posted on 07/26/2008 4:22:59 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

VERY WELL PUT.

Has it been your observation in life, or not,

that MOST folks who demand a tangible kind of proof . . . particularly from God . . .

tend not to get it?

Asking God for a foundation, reason for faith is different.

However, DEMANDING a proof to one’s arrogant specifications virtually never gets answered affirmatively, in my observation.


663 posted on 07/26/2008 4:45:46 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Cvengr

Are you saying, that it is just those who have faith alone in Christ alone, who can be attuned to these ‘visitations’?....I would have to say, that in all these mountains of ‘evidence’, there are many who would consider themselves in absolutely no relationship, with Christ at all, and yet still insist on these experiences...and there are many many folks, who have faith alone, in Christ alone, who absolutely do not believe in any of this stuff, because they find it simply unBiblical....their faith leads them to conclude, that no life, anywhere but on earth, originating nowhere but on earth, is all the life that there is...so for these faith alone, in Christ alone, the very notion of UFO’s and ET’s is totally unBiblical, and therefore completely unbelievable...

And so much of this supposed ‘evidence’ is hardly in the spiritual realm....there are folks reporting they found some small piece of a vehicle, from outer space and they took it to some lab, and the lab swears it was made out of something ‘alien’....ah, yes, and where is this piece and where is this lab, and where is the report?...POOF, they have all seemed to disappear....yeah, right...

And there is supposed to be physical proof at Area 51....tune in and watch Independence Day, the movie, for the specifics....

And on and on...anyone can make claims at any time...

My dad, a very clear and logical thinker, longed to see viable proof of life outside this earth....one time on his way to work, very late at night, he saw something in the sky, that he could not explain...he studied on it, made lots of phone calls and inquiries, and finally found out the ‘rational’ explanation, based on facts, for what he had seen...he did not go off, all wild eyed, making extraordinary claims of what he had seen....he could have sworn that what he saw was ‘proof’ of alien existence....instead he took the rational course, investigated and found the answers....

Most phenomenon that people report, has a plausible explanation, and that explanation is found....what cannot be explained, is the reason, I always leave open the belief, that there is life, somewhere here on earth, or out in space, that will surprise us all... it is ‘interesting’ that reports of UFO phenomenon are similar to reports of the spiritual domain....’interesting’, but hardly proof of any sort....

All that being said, I had an experience of encountering ‘something’ which would be in the spiritual realm, which to this very day, remains clear in my mind...it happened when I was probably around 10 or 12 and I was not the only one who experienced this, and did so at the exact same time I did...it is something that to this day, I cannot explain...but I dont go running around, claiming it was some sort of UFO visitation, or anything like that..it was just something I experienced...I figure, when I meet my Lord, I will find out what it was I experienced...

I did find what you said to be interesting, well presented, and something to mull over...so thanks for that, it was appreciated...


706 posted on 07/26/2008 2:46:17 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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