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To: Quix
Even our limited understanding postulates 11 or so other dimensions

There’s all manner of conceivable possibilities. Walling them all off as impossible by fiat is certainly not scientific

I never walled off any possibilities. Lots of things are "possible" or "conceivable", but this thread is about claims of fact.

So is this whole thread just a discussion about fantasies and possibilities rather than a discussion of the assertion by this ex-astronaut of alien visitations, etc., as REALITY? The basis of this thread is an ex-astronaut who claims that not only are there aliens, not only have they been visiting earth for decades, but various shadowy government entities have been examing their bodies and spacecraft, in secret, for decades.

As I have said so many times before, apart from being terribly unlikely (not impossible, but unlikely), there has never been any serious proof of any of the myriad claims of the UFOlogist cultists. And for you to continually suggest that no one here who disagrees with you has read the "evidence", as if that is a substitute for fact, reason, and reality, is a waste of everyone's time. If aliens are real, if they've been visiting earth, then present the evidence that PROVES it. And that takes more than a bunch of eyewitness accounts, stories of abductions, supposed other-worldly knowledge among primative tribesmen, fuzzy photos, jerky, poorly focused videos, and musings about other dimensions or imagined communications between atoms.

Unless of course, you are asking everyone to accept the existence of aliens as a matter of faith? That would put UFOlogy in the realm of religion, not science.

566 posted on 07/25/2008 10:33:43 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: Sicon
That would put UFOlogy in the realm of religion, not science.

Consider that UFOlogy might be very comfortable in the realm of psychology.

568 posted on 07/25/2008 10:38:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Sicon
And for you to continually suggest that no one here who disagrees with you has read the "evidence", as if that is a substitute for fact, reason, and reality, is a waste of everyone's time.

Oh my God! Please tell me you didn't just realize this!
569 posted on 07/25/2008 10:40:59 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Sicon

You still haven’t dealt with the

fact

that your bias is wholesale vulnerable to a TYPE II ERROR

wayyyyyyyyyyy

disproportionately to a TYPE II ERROR

and very IRRATIONALLY, UNSCIENTIFICALLY SO.


575 posted on 07/25/2008 10:59:15 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Sicon

Oh, bravo, quite well said, and appreciated....


600 posted on 07/25/2008 3:48:02 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Sicon
As I have said so many times before, apart from being terribly unlikely (not impossible, but unlikely), there has never been any serious proof of any of the myriad claims of the UFOlogist cultists.

If aliens are real, if they've been visiting earth, then present the evidence that PROVES it. And that takes more than a bunch of eyewitness accounts, stories of abductions, supposed other-worldly knowledge among primative tribesmen, fuzzy photos, jerky, poorly focused videos

Do you believe in a God?

I'm not sayin, I just sayin...

602 posted on 07/25/2008 3:56:18 PM PDT by dragnet2
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