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Top Astronaut: 'Aliens Do Exist' [Dr Edgar Mitchell who was the sixth man on the Moon......]
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Posted on 07/24/2008 6:56:42 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: RightWhale

You operate on the basis of the second ‘if’ in one of its variations. Many operate on the basis of the first ‘if’: 1)if the ETs are demons; 2) if there are ETs they are just as real as us ... the same conclusion is reached in either case, that open proclamation will be the end of humankind’s universal innocence, but only ‘if’ the reality of ETs is proven by us or by them, by accident or design.


381 posted on 07/24/2008 2:09:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
CS Lewis mused about the human predilection for missionary work and evangelization, and how we might find ourselves one day proselytizing to a race on a planet where the beings did not fall from grace.

I wonder what the reaction would be if such a race came here preaching to us how we should live...I suspect the left would vilify them as well.

382 posted on 07/24/2008 2:10:49 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I wonder what the reaction would be if such a race came here preaching to us how we should live...I suspect the left would vilify them as well.

Gort could handle the lefties. ;-)

383 posted on 07/24/2008 2:18:19 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (ISLAM IS THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, DIRECTED BY SATAN AND HIS FALLEN MINIONS.)
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To: Petronski

LOL...


384 posted on 07/24/2008 2:23:39 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: OB1kNOb
LOL...I'm sure he could. The problem is, that movie had a slightly leftist (although I suppose "utopian" might be a more accurate word) slant.

I'm wondering how this world would receive basically human beings who had not surrendered Eden, and came preaching to us about the need to incorporate a worshipful, moral, humble component to our existence, and perhaps even brought with them some type of "proof" that atheists state "does not exist."

385 posted on 07/24/2008 2:25:00 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Does that mean there is more than one tree in the midst of more than one Garden, a tree of immortality?


386 posted on 07/24/2008 2:27:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Even beings with tens of thousands of years lifetimes would find travel at sub-light speed to be booooring to go through just to come here. If they’re coming, there must be another trick.


387 posted on 07/24/2008 2:36:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
"Does that mean there is more than one tree..."

I have no reason to believe that an omnipotent Creator would not limit himself to one "world." While I believe humanity and the human experience are unique, I don't think that precludes other races, beings, creatures, etc. from having been called into existence (and in that regard, perhaps my use of the term "human beings" in a previous post was inappropriate). Certainly, I would think that the GOD who saw fit to reveal himself to his creatures on this planet would not see fit to commune with his beings on another planet (or universe for that matter).

Lewis presents the hypothetical fictionally in his "Space Trilogy," then discusses it in more serious terms in (at least) one of his other tomes, although exactly which one, I don't specifically recall at the moment.

388 posted on 07/24/2008 2:42:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Sicon

Well said...


389 posted on 07/24/2008 2:43:09 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: zeugma

INDEED.

Thankfully, I realized that before I listened to Stanton shred it.


390 posted on 07/24/2008 2:50:13 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: ozzymandus

It is kinda funny.


391 posted on 07/24/2008 2:53:02 PM PDT by Jaded (Does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Sicon

Actually, even Obumma is not quite slick enough to qualify. And, he has too much baggage.

Remember, the Israeli’s will believe he really is the long awaited Conquering King Messiah.


392 posted on 07/24/2008 2:53:16 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: ZX12R

I certainly agree Obumma is creepy.

And, he’d be horrific in the job. Even more so than McChurian.

I just think he’s a 2 bit player . . . dancing by the string pulls.


393 posted on 07/24/2008 2:54:34 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: dead

methinks you haven’t looked VERY hard.


394 posted on 07/24/2008 2:55:34 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: JoJo Gunn

Bravo, well said...


395 posted on 07/24/2008 2:55:49 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel

INDEED. While loathing his jerk-y-ness . . . I felt embarrassed for him.

If that was a script from the puppet masters, I hope they paid him well. That was absurd.

Stanton played with him like a tiger a mouse.


396 posted on 07/24/2008 2:57:04 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: MHGinTN

You make some great points.

And we should also be aware that when the actual Antichrist figure spoken of in the Bible is unveiled, it may (or may not) be accompanied by alien (demon) visitors, but if these ‘aliens’ make their appearance, it would be expected that they would be facing all sorts of questions from our species, and one primary question would be (or should be) “Do you confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, King of kings, Lord of lords and the Prince of Peace?”

And bearing in mind that the Devil is the father of liars, and a master of deception and deceit, we can expect those ‘aliens’ to smile, nod their big grey heads and say “of course we do!” Because it wouldn’t surprise me at that point if they followed up that statement with “Jesus sent us to prepare His way for Him!”

And millions will be deceived.


397 posted on 07/24/2008 2:58:02 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel

Have read of a number of such patents.

Still haven’t seen one tooling down . . . just above the highway etc.

I can’t imagine the folks who love to control us so much through energy would allow such to be readily available. And they certainly keep watch over the patents.


398 posted on 07/24/2008 2:58:31 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Quix
. . . dancing by the string pulls.

I think there is much much more of this than most people understand.
399 posted on 07/24/2008 3:02:08 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: JoJo Gunn; RightWhale

Thanks.

I have you both down that the Dems will lease ANWR before UFO’s will be proven; widely seen on the news etc.

Is that right?


400 posted on 07/24/2008 3:02:24 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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