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To: allmendream
Immune deficiency was almost unheard of until HIV was found in humans. Now almost all people with immune deficiencies are found to have HIV exposure. Strong correlation.

Stunningly ignorant and illogical.

The epidemiology of HIV indicates that it has been endemic in humans for centuries. It is NOTHING like the epidemiology of AIDS. HIV is found in thousands of humans with NO symptoms of AIDS Symptoms of AIDS are are found in thousands of humans with NO HIV. None of these individuals are diagnosed with AIDS. Why? Because AIDS is not a disease, it is a syndrome defined as the presence of one or more of several marker diseases in an individual who tests positive for HIV antibodies.

With a definition like this, it's not surprising that you have a "strong correlation of HIV with AIDS. It's DEFINED that way.

But, leave an HIV positive, non-IV drug user, non-buggerer, non-malnourished, otherwise normal person alone, and there is NO greater chance of developing an AIDS associated disease than anyone else in the general population. Give them anti-HIV drug cocktails, and you'll eventually kill 'em dead.

40 posted on 07/22/2008 7:20:28 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
The epidemiology of HIV indicates that it has been endemic in humans for centuries. It is NOTHING like the epidemiology of AIDS. Reference or citation?
41 posted on 07/22/2008 8:24:13 PM PDT by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: John Valentine
I am sure you have a good peer reviewed study to indicate this AMAZING thing whereby HIV positive people without drug cocktails have the same chance of acquired AIDS as people with similar risk factors? Or the thousands of people with AIDS who are NOT HIV positive?

People who are HIV positive and have developed AIDS die less now on anti-retrovirals than before there was any medicine for them, so how could it be the medicine that is killing them?

Amazing claims need good evidence. You have supplied none.

53 posted on 07/23/2008 6:32:14 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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