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The N-word and why black power could keep Obama out of the White House
dailymail.co.uk ^ | July 18, 2008 | Philip Delves Broughton

Posted on 07/19/2008 5:18:28 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: wardaddy

Don’t know. The arguments that I’ve seen for his Arab ancestry consist almost entirely of unsourced assertions and idiotic “reasoning.” I’ve yet to see a detailed family tree for the father’s side of the family.

To top it off, Fred’s earlier citation claims that federal law requires someone to be 1/8 blood before they can claim a given ethnicity. I’ve been unable to find anything that will verify this, and from what I can tell there is no such federal regulation.

If there were, a great many Indian and Native Hawaiians wouldn’t qualify. Clear back in the 1830s many of the leading Cherokee chiefs were 1/8 or less Indian “blood.”

Is anyone else as creeped out as I am by this discussion of “blood quanta?” The use of such criteria for categorizing people has a pretty disqusting history.


81 posted on 07/20/2008 12:35:03 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan
well, ethnic relation quotas are very common for some tribal memberships and affirmative action and quota hires and scholarships

my ex-wife is Lebanese of Maronite ancestry yet our oldest daughter (on my page) who lives with me qualifies for Latino minority assistance at her private Church of Christ college which is pretty darn conservative.

a local guy worth probably 100M on a bad day replete with GIV and all the other toys is a local lawyer who because he is like 1/4 or 1/8 Lumbee Indian qualifies for MBE set asides and started a local highway construction outfit which has blossomed into quarries and batch plants and cement too

I don't like it but the quota of blood notion is now the province of the Left, not James Crow.....at all.

82 posted on 07/20/2008 2:26:32 PM PDT by wardaddy (Myself and my ancestors take full responsibility for all racial discrimination here since 1607)
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To: wardaddy

We don’t know that for a fact. I base my remarks on conversations with black friends that I have had and I live in the South.


83 posted on 07/20/2008 3:10:12 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: muawiyah

Abbott Vaughn Meader (March 20, 1936 – October 29, 2004) was an American comedian and impersonator whose achievement of fame with The First Family album spoofing President John F. Kennedy was equalled only by his obscurity after Kennedy’s assassination in 1963.


84 posted on 07/20/2008 3:12:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

it would be nice to see blacks reject Obama as an imposter not good for them but they cannot resist the siren call of what they percieve as racial commonality

in my opinion.


85 posted on 07/20/2008 3:16:47 PM PDT by wardaddy (Myself and my ancestors take full responsibility for all racial discrimination here since 1607)
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To: ottbmare

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(IOW, gibberish.)


86 posted on 07/20/2008 3:31:22 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: quark
WRONG. Stop spreading RETARDED urban legends.

Barack Obama was a Luo (ie BLACK as COAL) from Kenya, not a SEMITIC Arab.

87 posted on 07/20/2008 3:46:54 PM PDT by Clemenza (Barack Obama is a Chance the Gardner for the 00s)
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To: jamese777

Obama’s daddy is a Luo. This “half Arab” rumor is popular among the extra chromosome crowd.


88 posted on 07/20/2008 3:47:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (Barack Obama is a Chance the Gardner for the 00s)
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To: expatpat

Daddy is a LUO, not an Arab.


89 posted on 07/20/2008 3:48:39 PM PDT by Clemenza (Barack Obama is a Chance the Gardner for the 00s)
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To: wardaddy
The thing is that there really isn't any racial commonality here.
Obama is the result of a white woman and a Kenyan. He was raised in circumstances very far afield from almost all blacks in the U.S..
He was raised by his white grandparents, grew up and graduated High School in Hawaii. A world so far from most all blacks in this country that he has absolutely nothing in common with them.
He goes to Ivy League schools, gets job with a good Law Firm in Chicago but to give himself street credibility he becomes a “Community Activist”, whatever that means.
He has done nothing of any importance as a either a Illinois State Senator or a U.S. Senator. No major legislative initiatives, nothing. He has no leadership experience at all, yet we are being asked to vote for this man for the highest office in the land based on the thinest resume I have seen in a long time for someone running for President.
Yes there are a lot of Blacks that will vote for this guy but my guess is that he is the biggest conman for their vote in long time and Jesse Jackson is upset because he is now yesterday's news.
90 posted on 07/20/2008 5:12:07 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: bvw

Kenya's new prime minister Raila Odinga takes oath of office

(Prime Minister, not President.

91 posted on 07/20/2008 6:05:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: wardaddy

“But didn’t the whole Arab connection come from this notion that a grandmother (?) on his father’s side was Saudi?”

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

homework...


92 posted on 07/20/2008 6:08:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: bvw
KENYA PRIME MINISTER. LINK.

NAIROBI, Kenya: Kenya's opposition leader was sworn into office as the country's prime minister Thursday, fulfilling a key step in a power-sharing deal aimed at ending a deadly political crisis in the East African nation.

Within hours, a feared gang promised to heed new Prime Minister Raila Odinga's call to stop its campaign of terror in the capital — one small sign that resolving Kenya's political crisis could help return peace and stability to the fragile nation.

More than 1,000 people were killed and 300,000 displaced following the December elections that both Odinga and President Mwai Kibaki claimed to win. With the violence escalating, the rivals agreed in February to share power — but then wrangled for weeks over how to divide up their coalition Cabinet.

NO RAILA NO PEACE!

93 posted on 07/20/2008 6:18:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks, I apologize for adding to any confusion. Looks like I hit my information overload point today before I posted that last. But right now I admit to confusion. Who is what?


94 posted on 07/20/2008 6:23:52 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/04/17/kenya.cabinet/index.html

NAIROBI, Kenya (CNN) — Kenya swore in a new Cabinet on Thursday of more than 90 people, which one Kenyan official described as “a big burden on a poverty-stricken country.”

The ceremony capped months of violence in which about 1,000 people died following last year’s disputed elections. The Cabinet is split 50-50 between former bitter enemies from opposing parties.

After a power-sharing compromise, opposition leader Raila Odinga was sworn in as prime minister, the first person to hold that office since Jomo Kenyatta held it briefly after independence in 1963. Mwai Kibaki remains president.


95 posted on 07/20/2008 6:36:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Thanks again!

Hard to read what that means in practice. What I recollect is that in the British type systems a President is ceremonial and a Prime Minister is the power wielder.

96 posted on 07/20/2008 6:46:55 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
What I recollect is that in the British type systems a President is ceremonial and a Prime Minister is the power wielder.

from the link: On Thursday, ministers finally took up their positions, 20 each from Kibaki's and Odinga's camps. Kibaki's party retained the key finance and internal security ministries and Raila's allies will head up agriculture and oversee local government.

The entire government, including Odinga, swore an oath of loyalty to the president...

97 posted on 07/20/2008 7:21:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Clemenza

Afro-Arab (sometimes referred to as African Arab) refers to people who possess both black African and Arab ancestry.[1] There are large communities of Afro-Arabs in North Africa, East Africa and some Middle Eastern countries as well as, through recent migrations, Western Europe.

The phrase “Afro-Arab” also refers to African Union efforts to improve co-operation between Africa and countries of the Arab world.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Arab


98 posted on 07/20/2008 7:24:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

interesting.....Lamb seems credible to me


99 posted on 07/20/2008 7:45:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (Myself and my ancestors take full responsibility for all racial discrimination here since 1607)
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To: muawiyah
...The Luo also appear to have Negroid characteristics ~ nose, degree of pigmentation, shape of skull, hair structure.

Having recently read 'The White Nile' written by Alan Moorehead, published in the UK in 1960, I was reminded of Tippu Tib:

WIKI LINK:

His mother, Bint Habib bin Bushir, was a Muscat Arab of the ruling class. His father and paternal grandfather were coastal Swahili who had taken part in the earliest trading expeditions to the interior. His paternal great-grandmother, wife of Rajab bin Mohammed bin Said el Murgebi was the daughter of Juma bin Mohammed el Nebhani, a member of a respected Muscat (Oman) family, and an African woman from the village of Mbwa Maji, a small village south of the then German capital of Dar es Salaam.

I was surprised to find an image of Tippu Tib on the web. What might he represent? An African-Arab or an Arab-African?

100 posted on 07/20/2008 8:00:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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