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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
If this fails to pass, I’m sure you’ll see some “conservatives” wanting to overturn the will of the voters, the very thing they’re angry at the California Supreme Court for.

Exactly what in the hell are you talking about? Do you even know the history of this fight? I'm going to assume you don't and explain it to you.

Californians passed, by referendum, a law defining marriage as between a man and a woman several years back which, predictably, was overturned by the state Supreme Court as being unconstitutional (state constitution). I defy you to find any language in the California state constitution that justifies that decision. The state Supreme Court willfully misinterpreted the state constitution in order to thwart the will of the people.

Conservatives, ever pointlessly determined to play by the rules even when the other side won't, have gotten the signatures necessary to put the constitutional amendment on the ballot in order to combat this usurpation by the court. My opinion is that if the state Supreme Court can ignore the constitution as it is now, they can just as easily ignore this amendment, and so a better solution would be to run the justices out of the state on a rail, but, as I said, conservatives are still clinging to the false belief that we are still a country of constitutional laws.

This amendment is absolutely unnecessary, as it is only the whim of a few justices, rather than law, which allows gay marriage here, but if it fails to pass, that does not mean that we should simply roll over and accept the blatant dictatorial actions of the Court, just because enough Californians have been brainwashed. Quite frankly, even if a majority of Californians now support gay marriage (which I doubt) that still doesn't mean they get to subvert our system of laws in order to implement it.

To sum up, when one side throws the laws out, it is not a reasonable position to blame the other side for being outraged, and fighting it.
116 posted on 07/18/2008 2:49:23 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

I am aware of the history. I know that judges overturned a law passed by referendum. I just wonder what the reaction will be like of those who look to the referendum as a solution if it fails. Then the will of the voters will say that gay marriage is okay. I personally don’t think it’s an appropriate for government to get involved in the issue in the first place.


120 posted on 07/18/2008 7:00:14 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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