Posted on 07/16/2008 5:43:59 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
You're completely ignoring the role our weakened dollar is playing in this. The issue is more complex than people think, but I don't think you're one who fully understands it either. I question your libertarian label - you're terribly naive to think that once more tax money comes in, the tax rate on property will decrease.
Sorry, I assumed L.A. because that seems to be a popular place of exit for California conservatives. I’m not sure what you mean by your second comment.
Suburb to suburb commuting doesn’t mean you live in the middle of nowhere.
Say what you will, but I’ll bet there are more people in the suburbs of Chicago that have this problem then there are in many small cities. Looking at it from a numerical perspective, the suburb to suburb dimension should be what we are discussing. Otherwise, we’re talking about a much smaller percentage of the people with a problem (or should I say ‘whiners’?).
The weak dollar is part of it, but only part of it. Global supply and demand is a bigger part. Also, I never said that taxes WOULD decrease, I said they should in theory. I’ve been alive too long to think that government won’t try to find a way to get more of my money, but that will happen regardless of whether more people move into my city. At least it might slow the bleeding, and if enough other conservatives move in, we might actually be able to start cutting.
“Im not sure what you mean by your second comment.”
Since posting that comment I went back and read more of the postings of your discussion with others. I agree with #99. He did however leave out the word “Troll”.
Terribly nice of him.
Where do the poor go when you drive them out of the affordable housing in the city?
There’s always affordable housing. It just may not be the nicest. If you could be poor and live comfortably, why would anyone bother to work hard?
lol...Minneapolis has more crime per capita than Los Angeles. Much more as a matter of fact.
Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:
Minneapolis, MN | Los Angeles, CA | National | |
Murder: | 15.2 | 12.4 | 7 |
Forcible Rape: | 27.3 | 32.2 | |
Robbery: | 806.8 | 370 | 205.8 |
Aggravated Assault: | 755.7 | 377.2 | 336.5 |
Burglary: | 1552.3 | 524.8 | 813.2 |
Larceny Theft: | 3493.2 | 1539.2 | 2601.7 |
Vehicle Theft: | 965.9 | 654.4 | 501.5 |
Then that’s a compliment to Los Angeles, because I feel safe here.
Thank-You!
I can now stop banging my head against the keyboard.
You might feel that way, but the stats don’t lie. Some of those numbers are double and triple the per capita crime stats.
Also, it helps that some of the worst places in L.A. are techinically outside the city proper (Compton, Inglewood, etc.) But still, I’m sure the hype about crime in L.A. is far worse than the truth. A lot of people seem to think NYC has a lot of crime, when in reality it’s one of the safest cities in America.
Like I said, I’ll bet L.A. really isn’t so bad. I’m also confident the bulk of those crimes were in North Minneapolis and the area around E. Lake St. Most of the city is very safe. I’ve been to Los Angeles for both business and pleasure, and all of the West side seems very nice. A lot of the worst parts of South and East L.A. are technically outside the city, whereas the suburban San Fernando Valley is in it, so I’m not surprised.
Check out St. Louis.
St. Louis and Los Angeles Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People
Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:
St. Louis, MO | Los Angeles, CA | National | |
Murder: | 37.2 | 12.4 | 7 |
Forcible Rape: | 97.15 | 27.3 | 32.2 |
Robbery: | 907.2 | 370 | 205.8 |
Aggravated Assault: | 1439.1 | 377.2 | 336.5 |
Burglary: | 2453.3 | 524.8 | 813.2 |
Larceny Theft: | 6802.4 | 1539.2 | 2601.7 |
Vehicle Theft: | 2492.2 | 654.4 | 501.5 |
Okay, great. Good for Los Angeles. I never disputed that. In fact, it supports either or both of my contentions that a) Los Angeles really isn’t so bad and b) L.A.’s stats are distorted because many of its worst neighborhoods are technically outside the city limits.
One should keep in mind that while the stats may be absolutely correct, they are as reported by the various local policing authorities. There may be a compelling political reason to have low crime statistics, so one jurisdiction may use a slightly different definition of a particular crime than another.
I'm not disagreeing that it's silly to be excessively wasteful. But this hyperbola about "burning up the planet" and 'destroying earth' sounds like it came right out of AlGore's global warming bible. We are not burning up the planet and we are not destroying the earth. Those are the kinds of phrases used by the left to try to legitimize the socialist movement.
It's much more palatable to allow the government to steal half you pay when it's done to save the earth.
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