Posted on 07/15/2008 5:23:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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However, it can't be hi-lighted enough that Obama himself talks about studying the Koran, refuses to give any details about his 1981 Pakistan trip, the influence his Indonesian Muslim Step-Father had in his life, and why he knew the difference between Sunni and Shiite Muslim’s in 1981.
It's like the Lewinsky scandal: It's not so much about the action, it's about the lies.
well, easy for you to say you obviously don’t have much notice on the political side of him all you see is what the media sends you... but, do you really want a president who sends the image of “ i understand what you poor people with nuclear weapons are going through, in fact lets sit down and have a tea party and talk it over,” listen the guy is a whack job, yea lets go sit down and talk to a guy that i assure you wouldn’t take two seconds to send a nuclear weapon in our direction!
Yes you are. Obama made two references to this school in his books, in one he called it "predominantly Muslim", but in the other he called it "a Muslim school" So it seems you're missing approximatly fifty percent...more or less.
If you had a Muslim childhood, have been a member of a Christian church for 20 years and somebody calls you a Muslim, then you feel offended, you might not really be a Christian but a Muslim pretending to blend in with your enemies.
Hey, the man promises change, and it’s change you’re gonna get. He’ll change at least once a week, twice on holidays.
I think the point in all of this is contained in your profile, so, I copied it and pasted it here - because you asked; “who cares?”
“Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.” — John F. Kennedy
That statement is so true.
There are those of us that simply cannot imagine the day when “traditional American values are replaced.”
Therefore, we care — we care, those of us that have worn the uniform to preserve our American way of life.
We care about a man with no experience, with no real clear history, but willing to flip flop on any issue for political expediency (that makes me skeptical) - so, in some instances, we have take what he says at his word, in other instances we have draw are own conclusion, because at the end of the day, when we step in the both and pull the curtain that is the most important decision that will affect this nation for the next four years — its important that we get that absolutely right — “the future of our Nation depends upon us caring and getting it absolutely right.”
BINGO, we've got a winner! It's nice to hang Obama with is own words.
My boyfriend dared to listen to ipod during Qur’anic studies. The mullah honestly believed he was listening to Qur’anic commentary.
Yeah, whatever... What I wonder is: When are people here going to realize that:
None of this “Eeewww, he’s a closet Muslim” crap makes him any less eligible to be President.
It doesn’t matter to you. Let’s be clear.
Because he is allowing the media and the sympathetic to deny what he himself has written as true. The fact is this would not be any issue for Obama to admit if he had actually been "saved" at an actual loving, Christian church. Instead he chose an American-hating, black liberation church with many marxist roots. Such a church has many strong roots growing from the Farrakan wing of the American Muslim world and thus Obama's claim to love Jesus and all he stands for has no value.
Your final paragraph indeed speaks to the issues -- and the problems I have with Obama -- his inexperience, unclear background, expediency. He is a dangerous man to have in the White House.
I only take folks here to task about the "Eeewwww, Muslim" aspect of our criticism of Obama. It does us no credit, and it weakens our position.
Virtually all known terrorists have been Muslim. There is a clear, undeniable connection between terrorism and the beliefs of radical Islam.
But even if he -was- raised a Muslim child, it is not clear to me that his childhood would be the determining factor in his Presidency. He is clearly (to me anyway) not a Muslim now -- seen him bow down and pray five times a day lately? Me neither.
You may not share my belief in the strength of America and the Constitution, but I believe that both will weather this next administration, whether it's Obama, McCain, Clinton, or a draft choice to be picked later. Old Glory will still wave and we will still be Americans after four years of any of those clowns.
Frankly I worry more about Obama undercutting the 2nd Amendment, than whether he's a closet Muslim.
I don't fear "traditional American values" being replaced here. Liberty will survive Obama. His threat is nowhere near the power of the Soviet Union in Kennedy's day. I was 10 years old during the Cuban Missile Crisis and I remember it. This (today) is nothing by comparison to that.
Kennedy's words are indeed so true, and we will defend liberty with every ounce of energy we have.
I’m more worried about his Marxist upbringing.
Obama's muslim past will only continue to be exposed. Get used to it, it's not going away and there is nothing you can do about it. heh heh
He said he had visited 57 states. 57 states in America do not exist. 57 states in the quoran do.
Okay, point taken.
Note, though -- it would matter a lot to me if he were a practicing Muslim now. Him bowing toward Mecca five times a day would worry the hell out of me, frankly. I'm not too proud to admit a bias in that regard. I admit I am much more comfortable with a Christian as President.
My point was that there is specifically NOT a religion test for eligibility for President. That's all.
The Founders were wise in that regard, and we should recognize that.
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