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Defense lawyers say Nazario’s prosecution may be the first case in American jurisprudence that the identity of the alleged victims is unknown and unreported by anyone as missing.

Could also be the first case in American jurisprudence where a Marine or soldier on a battlefield was later charged with knowingly using and carrying a firearm in furtherance of a crime of violence.

1 posted on 07/15/2008 8:27:02 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: RedRover

How is it that this court has jurisdiction?


2 posted on 07/15/2008 8:28:57 AM PDT by ikka
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To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...

For background on the Fallujah case, click at the LINK.

3 posted on 07/15/2008 8:29:12 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

And if the Obamination is elected, we can expect years of this sort of thing. Bush should issue a blanket pardon as he leaves office.


4 posted on 07/15/2008 8:29:53 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: RedRover
This is just another prosecutor using the "carrying a gun" trick to add onto the sentence. The most recent successful use of that trick was in the Compeon and Ramos case where Sutton dredged up that device to stick these guys in prison for what was, at most, administrative sloppiness.

The deal is that soldiers carry weapons at the demand of their superior officers. If you can charge the troops, you can certainly charge the superiors, and do that all the way up the line to the Commander in Chief.

The defense should demand that all those who directed this individual to carry an arm to also be indicted and hauled before the court.

Give that juge about 10 seconds to toss the case.

The members of the grandjury should check into their nearest mental health facility for a checkup, and the prosecutor should be relieved of duty immediately.

5 posted on 07/15/2008 8:33:22 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: RedRover

Has the flipping world gone mad?


6 posted on 07/15/2008 8:33:41 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: RedRover

After Boumedienne we can look for many of these prosecutions, especially with Hussein O’Bama in the White house, potentially as many as troops who have carried guns or gaiven orders in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Court has redefined war as being not different from fighting crime in Chicago or Amarillo.


9 posted on 07/15/2008 8:40:00 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: RedRover

The Marines should fire all the lawyers and buy more bullets with the money they save.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 8:48:23 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: RedRover; jude24; Lady Jag; Girlene; P-Marlowe
Causing an Act – in this case multiple murder – by two junior Marines under his command

How can they prosecute this if these men have not been convicted of doing anything wrong? If Nazario were found guilty of these, and then these men were exhonerated, wouldn't they have to vacate the conviction???

But this is the prosecutors' old game of piling on charges in the hopes that something will stick.

At the core of all this is that they returned to the house where this supposedly happened and there is zero evidence, there is no one complaining, no bodies, no identities, no blood, no nothing. The corporals who talked about this are described as suffering from PTSD, drug abuse, recantation of their stories, prone to embellishment, etc.

Honestly, how can you convict a man of getting others to do something when you haven't proven that the others actually did the alleged something?

16 posted on 07/15/2008 9:00:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: RedRover

Prosecutors are famous for piling on charges but this is ludicrous. Hopefully they’ll be at least one juror with a little common sense and the guts to hold out for a not guity verdict.


19 posted on 07/15/2008 9:19:33 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover; xzins; jazusamo; Girlene; lilycicero; Lancey Howard
Defense lawyers say Nazario’s prosecution may be the first case in American jurisprudence that the identity of the alleged victims is unknown and unreported by anyone as missing.

Not only that; this may be the first time that a former United States Military Member has been indicted for trial as if he had waged War AGAINST the United States:

So to parse it out:

No matter how the Supremes or anyone else wants to spin this, these show trials are UNconstitutional!

22 posted on 07/15/2008 9:42:29 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: RedRover

This does not bode well for us as a nation.
In the animal kingdom of which we are part, when a species begins to eat its own young, that species is headed toward extinction.


23 posted on 07/15/2008 9:42:36 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: RedRover

What crap!


46 posted on 07/15/2008 1:46:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: RedRover

“He knowingly used and carried a firearm”

Well DUH!

I swear this HAS to be Scrappleface. This is so completely stupid that I am at a loss for words.

I cannot believe this case is pressing forward. God help us!


49 posted on 07/15/2008 4:46:42 PM PDT by Shelayne (Say "hi" to my grandma, Tony Snow!)
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