Posted on 07/10/2008 12:54:41 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
Tell the swings voters in your neck of the woods what? That the word “recession” has an actual meaning — and that no matter what the bobble heads on their televisions tell them, we haven’t been in one since the last two quarters of the Clinton administration? What should I do, make a sandwich board and stand on street corners in the Midwest until these people figure out they’re being lied to?
Your friends deciding elections in the Midwest already helped inflict a socialist Congress on their country, added a full point to the national unemployment rate in the process and seem dead-set on putting a Marxist radical in the White House. They don’t like the gas prices? Too bad. Maybe they should have paid some attention to energy issues before gas hit $4.00 a gallon and voted accordingly when they had the chance to do something about it.
There’s nothing I can say to convince these people of anything. They wanta nanny-state to babysit them through life and guarantee their happiness. They’ve completely lost sight of what a Constitutional Republic is supposed to be and don’t have the first clue how to keep it, because they refuse to take responsibility for anything in their own lives. What’s happening in this country is their fault, more than anyone else’s. Honestly, I don’t give a damn what they think about anything. They’re beneath contempt and beyond hope.
In other words, the masses are never wrong. About anything.
McCain is undoubtedly having a bad week. That pause on the question about insurance funded viagra vs. birth control was a great opportunity to say neither should be funded but he looked like he was having a stroke. Now his comeback on Gramm was stellar stupidity. Gramm was right in many ways but McCain wanted to be funny and looked like a dope.
It has nothing to do with the masses; it has to do with the individual. Nor does it have anything to do with right or wrong. You are just trying to deflect with your response by reading in or inserting something that is not there.
If the individual perceives his/her situation to be bad, the/she will act accordingly. If he/she perceives it to be good, he/she will act accordingly. [That is not a right or wrong issue, not is it a masses issue.]
When the voter goes in to the voting booth.... [read the rest of my original post]
Maybe you’re talking about individuals. I’m talking about the mass-media consuming sheep who make up the vast majority of the population. You know, the ones who decide elections. And they believe whatever the box facing the couch tells them to believe.
See the polling data on the economy prior to the 2006 mid-terms if you need some evidence.
Now right here in my own state of Michigan, we still send 9 Republicans of the 15 spots to Congress. That number could vary from 5 to 10 depending on how the voting goes. Ohio has about 4-5 competitive districts. Indiana has four competitive district. Wisconsin at least two or three competitive districts. Same for Minnesota. Illinois has three competitive districts.
Do you want them to vote our way or not? If so, the GOP needs a good plan to stop the governmental f' up of this economy with ANWR blocking, high gas taxes and other taxes, red tape, and bad trade agreements so our industries can get back to work.
Maybe you don't give a damn. You probably don't give a damn if we continue to have Speaker Pelosi. Senate Majority Leader Reid, and President Osama either.
Well, guess what..the people in my neck of the woods (I'm a Michigander) are right, and you are wrong on this one. Michigan has been in a single-state recession for almost five years. That's not just my opinion, either. An article in the Michigan Business Review in February 2008 reported the following:
"Michigan recorded its fourth consecutive year of recession in 2007, a bank economist concluded after reviewing labor market data. Jobs dropped 1.8 percent and the unemployment rate rose 0.4 percent in 2007, reported Dana Johnson, Chief Economist at Comerica Bank. Comerica's Michigan Business Activity Index fell 1 point in December, Johnson reported Thursday, matching the 2007 low set last January. The index averaged 10.6 last year, down 0.7 percent from 2006. "Reflecting the dismal economic backdrop, the exodus from Michigan continued to accelerate," Johnson wrote in his January state economic report. "Last year, more than 90,000 people on net moved to other states from Michigan, more than triple the number compared to just four years earlier." As a result, he said, Michigan's population dropped 0.3 percent, or by 30,000 people last year, on top of a 0.1 percent decline in 2006."
Our current unemployment rate is 8.5%. We're not imagining the problems here. They are real.
That's a good point. I don't remember that either.
I agree with Gramm, though. We are going through economic dislocations caused by government interference in the economy. Still, this is a time of wealth and prosperity unequaled in human history. America's poor have more material comforts and more opportunities than average citizens in many countries.
No, I’m not wrong. There are 49 other states besides Michigan that make up the United States and when you add them all up, there’s no recession.
Michigan is being hit particularly hard by the energy crisis because of the auto industry, but let’s be real... your electoral votes went to Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996 (vetoed ANWR drilling in 1996), Al Gore in 2000 (wants to abolish the internal combustion engine), John Kerry in 2004 (voted against ANWR drilling six times) and you send Carl Levin (voted against ANWR drilling) and Debbie Stabenow (voted against ANWR) to the Senate. Everyone you elect on the national level has consistently voted against American energy independence. UAW members insist on voting in a block for socialist candidates who put environmental junk science ahead their own economic needs and then act surprised when their jobs disappear because nobody can afford to drive their cars.
I understand that oil exploration and its effect on the auto industry is just one aspect of Michigan’s problem, but it’s illustrative of Michigan’s maddening habit of voting against its own interests and then complaining that Washington isn’t doing enough to help them. If we’re making a list of states that have dug their own hole, Michigan is at or near the top of it. If you consistently vote for punitive taxes against corporations, government mandated benefits, lopsided trade deals, energy dependence and costly environmental legislation specifically designed to strangle our economy, you’re going to lose your manufacturing jobs.
This is the primary reason America is coming apart at the seams. People don’t know what they’re voting for and they don’t make any effort to understand the issues that effect them. They listen to sounds bites, wait for something that either makes them feel good or gives them someone to blame and then react. Michigan is a prime example of this.
I stand by what I said. The collective ignorance of the American people is the primary source of every one of America’s problems. We get the government we deserve.
The people in government who have screwed up the economy did so with the blessings of the American people who gave them their jobs.
No, I don't want them to "vote our way". I want something more than that. I want them to pay attention, I want them to make an effort to understand the issues that effect them and I want them to remember that they're living in a Constitutional Republic, not a socialist utopia.
The obstructionists in Washington weren't born into their positions of power. They were put there by American voters who were given plenty of advanced warning of what the socialists intended to do. They voted for them anyway. They have no one to blame but themselves.
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