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To: liberallarry
It's not genetics, it's culture. After several generations in the United States, Asians perform pretty much like the white kids when their families don't drive them to get 4.0 GPAs. And Carribean black do quite well, having average incomes on par or above those of whites. As Thomas Sowell points out, the stereotype of the "dumb pollack" came from WW2 IQ testing that showed people of Polish ancestry as having below-average IQ. By WW2, that same ethnicity had above average IQs. Unless you want to make a Lemarckian genetics argument, I think it's pretty clear that the genes aren't what changed.
40 posted on 07/07/2008 7:26:25 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

Hard not to do well when you are afforded MBE status, ‘consideration’ in acceptance to the best schools and other perks.


43 posted on 07/07/2008 7:29:39 AM PDT by xDGx
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Wait ... you’ve got to remember ... “white” has been DECONSTRUCTED.

In other words, you have a bunch of whites kids drifting through the schools with parents who feel ashamed of their identity and don’t really know who they are. Why? Because Hollywood, academia and diversity seminars in corporate America have DECONSTRUCTED people from the European tribe.

They’re taught to feel guilt, they’re taught to have misplaced compassion, to not do their best so the other kids can get ahead, etc.

I know exactly what I’m talking about. I have a B.S. in Psychology, still study Psych and I’m involved with the advertising industry.

If you don’t know who you are or feel guilty about who you are YOU WILL NOT PERFORM WELL.

It’s like psyching a boxer out - if he’s psyched out he’s not going to perform well.


45 posted on 07/07/2008 7:31:56 AM PDT by Transformers
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To: Question_Assumptions
It's not genetics, it's culture.

Exactly.

Especially when people forget that Asia itself is racially diverse.

46 posted on 07/07/2008 7:32:39 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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I know about the bogus WWI intelligence tests, and about supposed superior performance of Caribbean blacks and Sowell's explanation, and his critique of "The Bell Curve" over IQ creep, and about Asian diversity.

But East Asians perform CONSISTANTLY at a superior level, as do Jews, over several generations and in many countries and cultures, statistics on athletic performance are clear, undeniable and can be explained only genetically, and twin and adoption studies pretty clearly support genetic explanations for intellectual differences.

The estimates I've seen place average Ashkenazi Jewish IQ at around 115, East Asian at 110-111, Caucasian 100, Hispanics I don't know, and black at 85-90. Make what you want of it.

I don't want to give the impression that the issue is settled. It isn't. I only present my reasons for my beliefs.

61 posted on 07/07/2008 7:57:07 AM PDT by liberallarry
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