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US Airmen Share a Little Known WWII Survival and Rescue Story
WTOL Toledo ^ | July 4, 2008 | Jennifer Boresz

Posted on 07/06/2008 5:42:26 PM PDT by Bokababe

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To: yarddog
It is a very interesting era in Chinese history - 1910 or so thru 1945. I have only recently, the last 3 years or so began looking at it with some in depth interest.
Scott entered the Chinese theater initially via becoming a member of the Assam-Burma-China Ferry Command. Flying c-47's(DC-3s)He was a Colonel, and along with Colonel Caleb Hayes came to Stilwell in Burma with a message from Gen Hap Arnold instructing them to evacuate Stilwell and his staff most urgently. Stilwell declined the invite. He welcomed the planes to take out his staff, but he had other plans and would remain on the ground with the troops.
At the point Stilwell was a 3-star General and he didn't think it worth his time to explain his reasoning to a couple of Air Force Colonels.
Scott later joined up with Claire Chennault, who did not like or pretend to like, Stilwell. Chennault became a favorite of Gen. Chiang and TV Soong because of the supply possibility he offered - 5-10,00 tons a month. All going to Peanuts larder/stockpile. Madame Chiang played in this game heavily also. And she was quick to paint a dashing and daring scenario of the CBI pilots. Who were very brave and dying at a rapid rate to move cargo/supplies into KMY warehouses. Where most of it sat. It was becoming evident that the future contention of the Chennault Cult, "Walking Joe" did not understand air power, had its roots in matters such as this.

I borrowed heavily from the best all around book I have been able to locate on this era and the actors involved - "Stilwell and the American Experience in China - 1911-1945"...by Barbara Tuchman. I highly recommend it for a more complete picture of the situation there during these times.
41 posted on 07/07/2008 12:33:48 AM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

The real second front in WW-II in Europe was in the air.


42 posted on 07/07/2008 4:06:24 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Controlling the air above the battlefield became essential to victory, from a strategic and tactical standpoint during WWII.

The war started in Europe with coordinated armor/air/infantry attacks (the Blitzkreig), and ended with the second Atomic bomb. The era of the battleship was brought to a close by carrier operations. Even U-boats felt the pressure of aerial attacks which helped turn the hunters into the hunted.

While all efforts were essential to positioning the planes where they could do that work, infantry needed to take and occupy the ground, and naval power to supply it, air power became essential to those efforts.


43 posted on 07/07/2008 9:35:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Bokababe

Yep, I see TratorJoe is nowhere to be had on this thread, maybe the FSB hiding under his wheelchair finally caught up to him.


44 posted on 07/07/2008 11:15:55 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Bokababe
"... I believe that the spirit in which you have gathered here to honor the memory of General Mihailovich, the faithful allied commander and the first anti-Nazis leader in Europe, is shared by the great majority of Americans.

The ultimate tragedy of Draza Mihailovic cannot erase the memory of his heroic and often lonely struggle against the twin tyrannies that afflicted his people, Nazism and Communism. He knew that totalitarianism, whatever name it might take, is the death of freedom. He thus became a symbol of resistance to all those across the world who have had to fight a similar heroic and lonely struggle against totalitarianism. Mihailovich belonged to Yugoslavia; his spirit now belongs to all those who are willing to fight for freedom.

I wish that it could be said that this great hero was the last victim of confused and senseless policies of western governments in dealing with Communism. The fact is that others have suffered a fate similar to his by being embraced and then abandoned by western governments in the hope that such abandonment will purchase peace or security.

Thus, the fate of General Mihailovich is not simply of historic significance--it teaches us something today, as well. No western nation, including the United States, can hope to win its own battle for freedom and survival by sacrificing brave comrades to the politics of international expediency.

......... it has been demonstrated beyond doubt that both freedom and honor suffer when firm commitments become sacrificed to false hopes of appeasing aggressors by abandoning friends."

- Ronald Reagan

45 posted on 07/07/2008 11:20:57 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython
"Thus, the fate of General Mihailovich is not simply of historic significance--it teaches us something today, as well. No western nation, including the United States, can hope to win its own battle for freedom and survival by sacrificing brave comrades to the politics of international expediency.

......... it has been demonstrated beyond doubt that both freedom and honor suffer when firm commitments become sacrificed to false hopes of appeasing aggressors by abandoning friends." - Ronald Reagan"

Couldn't have been more appropriate if it had been written last week! Thanks for that, mp!

BB

46 posted on 07/07/2008 11:58:03 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: montyspython
The other lesson learned from this is just how riddled the UK and US were with Soviet agents and sympathizers.

You gotta admire the heroism of the rescuers, who I'm sure were told all the crap about the Mihailovich group and went in anyway.

47 posted on 07/07/2008 12:12:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: yarddog; Bokababe; joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; ...

Josip Broz Tito, was also a mason.
This is his funeral. Year 1980, just watch western representatives on the funeral, including Margaret Tacher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq8QcrJCqko
clip is from Kusturicas movie “Underground”

P.S. “Lilly Marlaine” was Titos favourite tune.


48 posted on 07/07/2008 2:14:26 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

That is interesting, actually very interesting.


49 posted on 07/07/2008 2:27:58 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...
Commie dictator with prominent western leaders: Commie with western leaders....
50 posted on 07/07/2008 2:30:48 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: yarddog
The Commie and the Pope Tito And Pope Paul 2nd April 1971: Yugoslav statesman and president Marshal Tito (left) and Pope Paul VI during Tito's audience with the Pope at the Vatican. (Photo by Keystone/Getty Images)
51 posted on 07/07/2008 2:34:46 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: yarddog

Look at this too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2041626/posts?page=50#50


52 posted on 07/07/2008 2:36:18 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Well Tito certainly got around.


53 posted on 07/07/2008 2:58:50 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Bokababe

No mention on how the Chetniks stopped opposing the Axis and began collaborating with them as early as the winter of 1941. The rescue of the 500 airmen was little more than Chetnik doublegames which resulted in their strategic failure and elimination from the scene.


54 posted on 07/07/2008 3:51:35 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: sailor4321

Correct. Most Serbian Chetniks never fought the Axis, especially in the Italian zone, where collaboration with the Axis began from day one. Mihailovic’s group was one of the last to begin collaboration with the Axis, but it collaborated nonetheless.


55 posted on 07/07/2008 3:53:08 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: kronos77
Tito was given to the Balkan people via false British intelligence reports. He was basically an invented “leader” kind of like the “royal” Saud family.

He was not Serbian. In fact he fought against the Serbs in WW1.

The Balkans would have been better off if someone had taken him out when he came to power. I'm sure many people know about Goli Otok.

56 posted on 07/07/2008 3:53:48 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: SQUID

I do......the largest population of prisoners on Goli Otok were Croatian nationalists. I know two of them personally.


57 posted on 07/07/2008 3:55:43 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: kronos77

jimmy looks like he’s going to jump out of his shorts!


58 posted on 07/07/2008 4:00:26 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

lol “where’s the flood, Jimmah?”


59 posted on 07/07/2008 4:01:40 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: Bokababe

Open questions for anyone interested:

Can anyone name any anti-Italian or anti-German actions undertaken by the Serbian Chetniks of Dalmatia, Lika, Hercegovina, or Western Bosnia?

Can anyone tell us who rescued the Serbian Chetniks of the Dinara Division from annihilation by Tito’s Partisans by evacuating them to safe territory?

Can anyone here tell us when open collaboration began between Serbian Chetniks and the Germans?

Can anyone tell us on which side the Serbian Chetniks appeared during the Battles of Neretva (Operation Weiss) and Sutjeska (Operation Schwartz)? (Axis side or anti-Axis side).


60 posted on 07/07/2008 4:31:19 PM PDT by Diocletian
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