To: David
you acquired U.S. citizenship at birth McCain, is a natural born citizen...It was given to him at birth. I don't see how he could be considered otherwise. In fact, he were not given natural citizenship then there are virtually millions of AMerican who were born on Army bases who should not be considered citizens. Obama, if he were born in Kenya, is different. It's like apples and oranges. McCain has also hidden nothing. Obama, continues to stonewall the issue. Either way, I agree with you, that this needs to be addressed in the courts soon.
86 posted on
07/10/2008 1:12:52 PM PDT by
nikos1121
(The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
To: nikos1121
Either way, I agree with you, that this needs to be addressed in the courts soon. There's nothing for the courts to decide here. Even assuming that one or both of them is not a natural-born citizen, unless/until McCain or Obama win the election, there is no legal question before the courts. American courts don't decide a case before there is an actual legal issue before them.
To: nikos1121
In fact, he were not given natural citizenship then there are virtually millions of AMerican who were born on Army bases who should not be considered citizens. Obama, if he were born in Kenya, is different. It's like apples and oranges. McCain has also hidden nothing. Obama, continues to stonewall the issue. Either way, I agree with you, that this needs to be addressed in the courts soon. As to your first sentence, no not so.
Everyone concedes that McCain is a citizen under the two parent rule. No Doubt. And I assume you know he was not born in the Zone on the base but instead in Panama in a civilian hospital. His birth certificate is posted on the main thread.
So no, there are not millions of Americans born . . . either because they too, for the most part, have US Citizen parents.
As to Obama, it's different because under the narrow precise rules about how a person born outside the U S to two parents who are married to each other gets U S Citizenship, he flunks. No one has come up with a statutory analysis that makes him a citizen if he was born in Kenya which I believe that he was.
And therefore, I also think he doesn't come close to eligibility to act as President under the Constitution either.
It's not a righteous conduct issue--it's a simple statutory and Constitutional Law question.
95 posted on
07/10/2008 2:41:26 PM PDT by
David
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