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The Worm Turns
NY Times ^
| June 29, 2008
| MOISES VELASQUEZ-MANOFF
Posted on 07/03/2008 8:12:29 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Global2010
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posted on
07/03/2008 9:27:51 PM PDT
by
Styria
To: neverdem
I was regularly infected with round worms as a child, and today my bowels are paragons of elliminative eficiency. Guess those nights with an itchy sphincter were worth it!
To: neverdem
put me on the list, thanks!
23
posted on
07/03/2008 9:34:54 PM PDT
by
steel_resolve
(We are living in the post-rational world where being a moron is an asset)
To: gnarledmaw
That’s a snake in the head, not a worm in the belly.
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posted on
07/03/2008 9:40:48 PM PDT
by
dangerdoc
(dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
To: Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Battle Axe
25
posted on
07/03/2008 9:45:59 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
To: SuziQ
If I recall, the point is to elicit a type IV immune reaction which would be to fungus and worms rather than to bacteria.
26
posted on
07/03/2008 9:46:03 PM PDT
by
dangerdoc
(dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
To: neverdem
Add me, please and thank you.
27
posted on
07/03/2008 9:48:56 PM PDT
by
fightinJAG
(RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
To: SouthTexas
OTOH, why does it always come down to this:
Weinstock foresees new worm-based drugs.
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posted on
07/03/2008 9:51:28 PM PDT
by
fightinJAG
(RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
To: neverdem
Innerestin’.
Could you please add me to this list?
Thank you.
29
posted on
07/03/2008 10:18:12 PM PDT
by
El Sordo
To: El Sordo; irishtenor; steel_resolve; fightinJAG
I added you to the diabetes list.
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posted on
07/03/2008 10:43:36 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
To: Plutarch
This is Crohn's Disease and Ulcerative Colitis, which are not to be confused with Irritable Bowel Disease, which is more symptom than pathology.True enough, but if the hypothesis is correct, maybe they all have the same etiology. We like to separate immunology from neurology, but the two disciplines are probably more involved with each other than we realize, especially in the gut, IMHO.
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posted on
07/03/2008 11:00:11 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
To: neverdem
***If eliminating worms led to an increase in disease, could re-introducing worms actually treat these diseases?***
And I thought the problem was caused by being around certain people who were a pain in the butt, like my worthless brother-in-law (If you know him he probably owes you money).
To: neverdem
From what I’ve read, IBS is directly related to mood disorders, specifically depression. In other words, it’s something to do with neurochemicals, not the digestive tract.
While trying not to be gross, I will say that I suffered from horrible IBS for years. Once my depression was diagnosed and I began drug therapy, the IBS vanished.
To my knowledge, I have never had worms of any kind...
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posted on
07/03/2008 11:51:31 PM PDT
by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: Global2010
Earlier last century, a French diet pill did indeed contain tapeworm eggs.
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posted on
07/03/2008 11:56:53 PM PDT
by
VanShuyten
("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
To: neverdem; pandoraou812
Amazing! It makes some sense but it would be the last way anyone would look at it. Even alternative medicine is rife with ways to eliminate intestinal worms.
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posted on
07/04/2008 12:14:27 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Not a flu ping, but of medical interest...(Thanks, neverdem!)
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posted on
07/04/2008 1:04:00 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: neverdem
I've been aware of this treatment modality for about five years. It intrigued me the first time I read about it but begs the question, why do dogs still have IBD when they are constantly being challenged by intestinal parasites like Trichuris vulpis and Ancylostoma caninum? This may be one part of the puzzle in treating human forms of Crohns' Disease or IBD but I don't believe its the cure all. In cattle there is a Mycobacterium jujuni that causes IBD which can be transmitted to dogs and humans and I believe there has been a rare diagnosis in a cat.
To: neverdem
To: Kiss Me Hardy
Too much information. ;-)
Cheers!
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posted on
07/04/2008 5:02:04 AM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: SuziQ
I don’t know. If this theory of too much cleanliness holds up, introducing more live bacteria into an already too clean system might hurt more than help. The intestinal bacteria need something else to eat besides the intestine itself.
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