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To: sitetest

Sorry. I believe you missed the point that abortions only become an election issue during presidential elections and not other elections. All you pointed out is true but still there are still more efforts to help the poor rather than in pro-life projects in Churches that I have attended. Abortion is not the only issue now that Catholics consider in their candidate choice.

The public abortion battle seems to have been lost by the preachers just as the battle on shacking up. And depending on politicians to ‘fix’ something will be disappointing. If the public can be persuaded that ‘choice’ is not acceptable, then the politicians will follow. The horse is before the cart.


52 posted on 07/03/2008 10:50:33 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: ex-snook
Dear ex-snook,

“Sorry. I believe you missed the point that abortions only become an election issue during presidential elections and not other elections.”

I've seen abortion as an issue in any number of state and local elections.

“All you pointed out is true but still there are still more efforts to help the poor rather than in pro-life projects in Churches that I have attended.”

You haven't been to a wide variety of parishes, then.

I have.

I've seen parishes very much dedicated to the pro-life cause, and others where generally assisting the poor is more important. I've seen parishes where neither is particularly poor, and the life of the parish and its parishioners seems paramount. I've seen parishes that are pretty moribund where there isn't any particular emphasis on anything, other than getting Mass said, getting folks baptized and funeralized, and getting 2nd or 3rd graders to First Confession and First Communion, and getting 8th or 9th graders confirmed.

“Abortion is not the only issue now that Catholics consider in their candidate choice.”

That's true, but if you break out Mass-attending Catholics from Mass-non-attending Catholics, you'll find that Mass-attending Catholics vote predominantly pro-life.

Part of the problem is that significantly less than half of those who call themselves Catholics no longer darken the door of a Catholic church on Sunday (or Saturday evening, as the case may be) on a regular basis, but nonetheless, these non-practicing Catholics are still considered “Catholic” when pollsters poll.

“The public abortion battle seems to have been lost by the preachers just as the battle on shacking up.”

I couldn't disagree more. Polls show that support for severe legal limitations on the abortion license has never been higher. Most folks want to ban nearly all abortions under nearly all circumstances. Most of the rest of folks want to restrict abortion considerably from what we have now.

And younger people are becoming increasingly pro-life in their political views.

“If the public can be persuaded that ‘choice’ is not acceptable, then the politicians will follow.”

Actually, the public at large is now far more pro-life, politically, than politicians on the whole.

However, none of this was relevant to my initial post, to which you responded.

Real Catholics are pro-life every day, including on Election Day.

Douglas Kmiec is an apostate.


sitetest

54 posted on 07/03/2008 11:21:36 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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