[allmendream]

And what force, pray-tell, moves the sun around the earth?; considering the sun is many MILLIONS of times more massive.

Apparently gravity is another theory you have fundamental problems with.

And what explains the stars retrograde motions? Epicycles? Epicycles within epicycles? Why do you think things would move in epicycles in the absence of evidence?

[GourmetDan]

"And what force, pray-tell, moves the sun around the earth?; considering the sun is many MILLIONS of times more massive. Apparently gravity is another theory you have fundamental problems with. And what explains the stars retrograde motions? Epicycles? Epicycles within epicycles? Why do you think things would move in epicycles in the absence of evidence?"

You don't understand the implications of the statements that Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis made.

Gravity still drives everything. As I have explained to you before, geocentrists (and Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis) consider the entire universe while geokineticists don't.

I just don't think you are capable of understanding it.

[WVKayaker]

Apparently gravity is another theory you have fundamental problems with.

Your typical bag of tricks...

[editor-surveyor]

"And what force, pray-tell, moves the sun around the earth?"

Is your cognition really that limited? You cannot understand that all motion can be accurately described in an infinite number of different coordinate systems? You don't realize that the origin can be arbitrarily placed anywhere, without changing anything?