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To: antiRepublicrat
“To such a being the crucifixion would be infinitely less *troublesome* than a mosquito bite would be to us.”

I am sure you mean well, but you are assuming the same sort of garbage that is typical of many "scientists". You assume facts, not in evidence. Instead you posit, as if you are speaking truth. How else can you justify your precious TOE liturgy?

From a proper exegesis of Scripture, we can see that Jesus felt everything a man would feel. He was a man, with God's Spirit. Try being bound with chains, and a crown of thorns jammed onto your head. Try carrying half a tree through a couple of blocks. Try putting a nail through your hands... then a spear in your side. It will hurt, just as it hurt Jesus. God felt it necessary to be completely human, to experience how a human would feel, and how a human would die. Jesus is quoted, asking "why have you forsaken me?" He may have known in His heart that He was coming back, but We do not know His mind, do we? We only get it second handed, as you so often remind us.

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Were you there when they crucified my Lord?
Were you there when they crucified my Lord?
Oh! Sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.
Were you there when they crucified my Lord?

Were you there when they nailed Him to the tree?
Were you there when they nailed Him to the tree?
Oh! Sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.
Were you there when they nailed Him to the tree?

Were you there when they laid Him in the tomb?
Were you there when they laid Him in the tomb?
Oh! Sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.
Were you there when they laid Him in the tomb?

-Negro Spiritual, unattributed.

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In looking through my tears one day,
I saw Mount Calvary;
Beneath the cross there flowed a stream
Of grace, enough for me.

Refrain

Grace is flowing from Calvary,
Grace as fathomless as the sea,
Grace for time and eternity,
Grace, enough for me.

While standing there, my trembling heart,
Once full of agony,
Could scarce believe the sight I saw
Of grace, enough for me.

Refrain

When I beheld my every sin
Nailed to the cruel tree,
I felt a flood go through my soul
Of grace, enough for me.

Refrain

When I am safe within the veil,
My portion there will be,
To sing through all the years to come
Of grace, enough for me.

Refrain

-GRACE, ENOUGH FOR ME, Ed­win O. Ex­cell, 1905

483 posted on 07/07/2008 4:18:54 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker
I am sure you mean well, but you are assuming the same sort of garbage that is typical of many "scientists".

I am relating what was told to me by a Christian apologist. Haven't you been reading?

How else can you justify your precious TOE liturgy?

One problem with creationists/IDers is that they can't deal with something that is not religion. They feel a need to call science religion so they can deal with it on grounds they're used to, try to get it expelled from schools by saying it is a religion. They can't deal with the fact that it is simply not religion.

That's not to say that some don't treat it as religion, like Dawkins, but those few are just as bad as the IDers.

484 posted on 07/07/2008 7:37:08 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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