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Security Increased for FLDS Hearing Today
Deseret News ^ | Tuesday, June 24, 2008 | Ben Winslow and Pat Reavy

Posted on 06/24/2008 9:41:49 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland

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To: San Jacinto

“so she may have been in a tough spot.”

I, for one, would not want to have to face the decisions Teresa now has to face.

She is between a ‘rock’ and a ‘hard spot’.


521 posted on 06/26/2008 8:24:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

I wasn’t real clear. I was refering to the prospect of CPS getting conservatorship at the final hearing (if there ever is one), not to any past ruling.


522 posted on 06/26/2008 8:26:23 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: UCANSEE2
So if they had a secure location to sleep, I guess they didn’t have to worry

Grasp of the obvious there eh? LOL

523 posted on 06/26/2008 8:29:27 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: San Jacinto

IIRC, you are right.

Had the Appeal not gone their way, do you think the Writ would have ‘held water’?


524 posted on 06/26/2008 8:29:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: San Jacinto

“I wasn’t real clear.”

Yes, you were. I didn’t read it right.


“Would that justify the court giving conservaorship to CPS of male children or really young children?”

I would say no.

If there was evidence of abuse ‘other’ than ‘child-brides’, then the answer could be yes.

The stories of “breaking the baby”, and possible violation of child labor laws, have yet to be dealt with.

Whether the ‘breaking the baby’ is just a myth, and if not, whether it could even be proven, are ‘another story’.


525 posted on 06/26/2008 8:37:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: SouthTexas

Yep.

How are you?


526 posted on 06/26/2008 8:43:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: patton

Sweet dreams.

Hitting the sack myself, good night all.


527 posted on 06/26/2008 8:46:39 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: UCANSEE2

It was a well thought out pleading. On it’s face it had merit. The big problem the lawyers faced was trying to get a court to undo something another court of equal standing had already done. Usually, once a district court has properly assumed jurisdiction over a controversy, another district court will defer and not enter into a jurisdictional competition with the first court.


528 posted on 06/26/2008 8:51:53 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: UCANSEE2

Good, hope you are the same. Haven’t been able to keep up with things, other than the SCOTUS ruling today.

Sent wife to get an inspection and registration on different vehicles today. :)


529 posted on 06/26/2008 8:57:05 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

ALice, have you seen this?

The girl, Teresa climbs a tree during the grand jury proceedings.

Pictures of her in a tree! After seeing all those women together, I don’t think any of them said one word which could send their men to jail. Abuser enablers.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/jun/26/grand-jury-leaves-sect-case-in-limbo/


530 posted on 06/26/2008 9:39:31 PM PDT by JRochelle (Barak to Muslim women: "Your seats are in the back of the bus.")
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To: Elsie
Elsie, what happened to the FLDS haute couture fashion thread that I saw you on?

It has disappeared!

531 posted on 06/26/2008 9:47:00 PM PDT by JRochelle (Barak to Muslim women: "Your seats are in the back of the bus.")
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To: patton

I don’t think some of them know how many kids they have. Recently one couple was in severa newspapers saying how happy they were to get their kids back.

Come to find out the man has 5 wives, and the wife he was with has 6 kids she left in Utah, the youngest 10 years old.

She has 5 younger ones with this bozo. She was on Larry King and said her first husband was dead. So now she has kids out there who are parentless. She left them to go live on the ranch. Crazy bitch.


532 posted on 06/26/2008 9:54:05 PM PDT by JRochelle (Rob Portman for VEEP.)
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To: All

Just for the record let me state my position as a LDS member which I have stated NUMEROUS of times before!

Texas throw the book at them and HANG the MEN for child molestation! And put the women away for life!


533 posted on 06/26/2008 11:33:14 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: Osage Orange; Canticle_of_Deborah

Trust me, there’s a wide range of findings that don’t rule out virginity, but don’t prove it, either. I’ve seen one woman that I’d swear was a virgin. She needed surgical help before her wedding night. I’ve seen a girl the day after delivery of a full term baby that looked virginal exteriorly. The cervix was obviously that of a mother, but without a speculum, you’d never know.

The extremes, with thick, nearly intact hymens that interfere with tampon use vs tears and abrasions of acute trauma are not that common. Even non-consensual sex may not leave signs.


534 posted on 06/27/2008 3:31:30 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Alice in Wonderland

I’m really worried about that little girl. And surprised that NBC and other media haven’t picked up on the obvious denial that she exists.


535 posted on 06/27/2008 3:48:17 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: JRochelle
Elsie, what happened to the FLDS haute couture fashion thread that I saw you on?

It has disappeared!

Who can fathom the working of the collective Q mind?

536 posted on 06/27/2008 5:26:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: UCANSEE2

If one is “spiritually married” to another, does that necessarily mean they are having sex?


537 posted on 06/27/2008 7:16:41 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Very good question.

It does not ‘prove’ they were.

However, what is the purpose of getting ‘spiritually married’ to multiple wives, if not to conceive children?

They admit that is the goal, their practice, and there is plenty of proof, as they seem to have an OVERABUNDANCE of children.

According to their practice, it isn’t because they ‘fell in love’. It isn’t because their wife wants to be a career woman, and not have children.

Is that picture of Warren french kissing an obviously underage girl, a picture of a ‘young couple in love’?

How many ‘girls’ is he in love with? How many ‘wives’ does he have?

Since Warren was the only one who decided WHO married WHO, for what purpose on earth was the marriage?

Why would anyone want to be married to multiple women who were forced to be married?


538 posted on 06/27/2008 7:32:57 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: JRochelle

“She was on Larry King and said her first husband was dead. “

Either that is a synonym for ‘excommunicated’, or maybe Warren and Willie told her that, after they excommunicated him, or maybe both are true.


539 posted on 06/27/2008 7:35:52 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: SouthTexas

“Sent wife to get an inspection and registration on different vehicles today. :)”

So, you wanted her out of the house for a couple of days, so you could hog the computer????

: )


540 posted on 06/27/2008 8:07:27 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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