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AP settles copyright claim with Drudge Retort, “guidelines” for bloggers forthcoming
hotair.com ^ | June 20, 2008 | by Allahpundit

Posted on 06/20/2008 2:39:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Gondring; P-Marlowe

Some folks really need the /sarcasm tag.


61 posted on 06/20/2008 4:11:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Dan Nunn
Another article about Media Bloggers Association
62 posted on 06/20/2008 4:12:07 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: xzins

Some need a sense of humor, I’d say.


63 posted on 06/20/2008 4:14:19 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Earthdweller
No one knows who this guy is or how he became God of the bloggers...care to try again?

No need to try again, since the statement you just made is obviously false.

64 posted on 06/20/2008 4:15:40 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Is there a humor tag?

/humor


65 posted on 06/20/2008 4:16:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Yes, and their contention that they were the first with credentials is also wrong.


66 posted on 06/20/2008 4:16:30 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sounds to me like Cadenhead's saying AP is not backing off.

I have no doubt that the Ass. Press won't back off, but while it would probably be a slam-dunk to pull FR and you into court for that first violation I suspect it will likely be one of the "social" news-sites -- the ones that breathlessly hang on every publicists pronouncement of the latest dirt. And in that they may indeed have a point, after all there was and is valid reason for copyright on fiction. Once they have that case in hand, combined with the FR stipulations, the Web becomes bereft of valid discourse and political discernment.

Political speech is different. Granted, they send their people all over at some expense in order to gather the story. But the First Amendment was crafted to ensure Political Speech belongs to the People, not the one with the deepest pockets. Try getting into any House or Senate press conference. You can't -- you're not "a member of the 'Press Corps'" and your citizenship rights do not apply.

I think I remarked that we would rue the day that you were forced to knuckle under to WaPo and LaSlimes back then -- that day is now much, much, closer, and my ongoing tagline remains true.

67 posted on 06/20/2008 4:18:19 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Gondring
Really? Give us your list of the so-called members of this so-called “association”, that supposedly represents us all without anyones knowledge or consent.
68 posted on 06/20/2008 4:19:39 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: xzins
There has to be some <humor> first.
69 posted on 06/20/2008 4:20:27 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Links go to the full article. Not to an excerpt.

I’m not sure why this wasn’t obvious to you.


70 posted on 06/20/2008 4:20:58 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Gondring

Mad Ivan lives in London.


71 posted on 06/20/2008 4:21:44 PM PDT by Eva (ue)
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To: Gondring

Ig pay atin lay isn’t funny?


72 posted on 06/20/2008 4:22:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Gondring

The FR excerpt is linked to the full article.


73 posted on 06/20/2008 4:26:35 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: bpjam
Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints
74 posted on 06/20/2008 4:26:49 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Gondring

Posters on FR do not “steal” information, that’s a rather nasty generalization btw. The mods require links to all articles except, of course, for vanities. In most cases, AP articles are excerpted because of restrictions by the sources; WP, CT, LAT, etc. When excerpts are posted, freepers have to click on the link to read the entire article. We give them more hits than they would normally get because we click on the excerpt link to read the rest of the artice.
That will no longer happen, per Jim, AP articles, excerpts or quotes over 4 words are no longer welcome on FR. (That should be interesting.)


75 posted on 06/20/2008 4:26:51 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Gondring

July 7, 2006, I woke up in the middle of the night and for some odd reason went to my computer and turned on Free Republic. There were big headlines on the first post, that the London tube had been hit by a terrorist bombing. The thread was about fifteen minutes old, no other news source had it yet, and my son, who was waiting impatiently at the train station in London, had no idea what the delay was. He was late because he overslept, and it was his last day of his internship. I was able to reach him by cell phone before he even left the station. He had no idea of what was going on, but I did because Mad Ivan knew and posted it on Free Republic, that fast. I have no idea how Mad Ivan even knew because they weren’t saying what the problem was in London, yet. All they said was that they were closing the trains, please go home.


76 posted on 06/20/2008 4:29:02 PM PDT by Eva (ue)
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To: Gondring; P-Marlowe

Step 1 If a word begins with one or more consonants, move the consonant or consonant cluster to the end of the word.

Step 2 Add the letters “ay” to the end of the word. So “pig” would be “igpay,” “porker” would be “orkerpay,” and “swine” would be “inesway.”

Step 3 Simply add the letters “ay” to the end of the word if it begins with a vowel. Thus “animal” becomes “animal-ay.”

Tips & Warnings

A pig latinism is a pair of words, one in English and the other its pig latin translation, in which the pig latin translation has a meaning in English. Examples are “trash” and “ashtray,” as well as “beast” and “East Bay.”

The language varies regionally, so don’t be surprised if you hear “way,” “hay,” or even “yay” tacked onto the end of a word, especially if the word in question begins with a vowel. Thus “oink” could be “oink-way,” “oink-hay,” or “oink-yay.”


77 posted on 06/20/2008 4:29:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Grampa Dave

not AP, but close.

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78 posted on 06/20/2008 4:36:39 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The FR excerpt is linked to the full article.

Yes, but by posting the excerpt and headline, you have already put up there--for free--what some of their customers pay for.

I know the idea of free sharing on the 'net is fun, Comrade, but without kapitolistic profits, what incentive is there for news gathering?

The answer to this is that we should be paying for news reporting services, all of us, but that more competition be introduced by formation of competing ventures.

The AP is merely a cooperative of member news organizations who agree to share their material. Meanwhile, independent bloggers who conduct primary reporting could sell their material to the AP (as Michelle Malkin implied)...or form their own news cooperatives.

Also, note that the AP's statement was that they were after cases outside of Fair Use:

“when we feel the use is more reproduction than reference, or when others are encouraged to cut and paste.”

79 posted on 06/20/2008 4:39:36 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred

80 posted on 06/20/2008 4:39:37 PM PDT by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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