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To: muawiyah

So several days ago someone proved conclusively that this particular .jpeg file is in fact Obama’s birth certificate? I doubt it but you are welcome to provide a link to the definitive answer CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR .JPEG file and the issue of how Obama’s father’s race was listed.


225 posted on 06/18/2008 6:55:54 AM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS
The earlier thread addressed each and every issue being raised in this thread and rational answers were provided for each and every issue.

Basically the argument has been "Hey, bro, this thing has been scanned and changed", and, alas, that's what happens when you convert physical copy to an electronic format and then prepare that to fit on a website.

If that which you would expect to happen does seem to have happened, then it probably did happen.

I'd be really surprised if the document on the net showed different characteristics than that.

Another argument was that Hawaii was a foreign country in 1961. Although absurd on the face of it, the point was posted numerous times by different people. I doubt any of them were legitimate Freepers if you want to know the truth.

We also have claims by his brother that "Hey, he's all Moslem, Fo Sho", and I can imagine his brother doesn't particularly want to get murdered because some doufous Moslem in Kenya thinks it makes you an apostate to have Christian relatives. BTW, his brother wasn't raised with him, has a different mother and all that, and probably has very little more information about his man than that they shared a baby daddy (and there's a thread on what "baby daddy" means too).

Then there's this crazy argument about whether or not he should have been called a Negro, black, African or Raelian back in 1961. Look, I was there. I lived through it. The federales had not yet forced a monopoly on acceptable terms for race and people were free to call a spade a spade, a Jew a Hebrew, and a pig Petunia! They did so with relish. They also used a variety of other words for black people including "The N'WORD" ~ if you can imagine that. There was a period of time when "race" might be entered as "German", "Italian", "Irish" and so on. Language changes and sometimes faster than you can notice. As a certified member of the nomenklatura (a perfectly good Soviet word referring to those who decide what words mean) for most of my working career, I assure you that even as we speak there are people being paid to change the meanings of every word I have typed into this post, and within 10 years, the meaning of every item could be the opposite of how you perceive it today.

Here we are dealing with stuff done in 1961. That's when punch cards and digitek were still considered "high tech". You can get a certified "abstract" of the original document if you want. It will tell you his mother was white, his father from Africa, and he was born in Hawaii. Not much more to tell really. Babies come to us without a past you know.

240 posted on 06/18/2008 10:43:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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