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To: LomanBill

>>>>Oklahoma Declares Sovereignty

It’s an interesting idea; but I don’t think this is going anywhere anytime soon...<<

Are you willing to bet your freedom that it’s not? I know that’s what they are hoping for. They want us to sit on our butt in our easy chairs and let them smoothly slip our Constitution out from under us. With the Constitution goes the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.

This globalist socialism idea has been many years in the works. Americans have too many rights and liberties. Ask the UN diplomats and they’ll tell you that we need to live under socialism where the government tells us what the rules will be. The idea that there is a loaded rifle available for every citizen scares the crap out of our elected leaders.


100 posted on 06/15/2008 9:01:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch
>>The idea that there is a loaded rifle
>>available for every citizen scares
>>the crap out of our elected leaders.
 
Perhaps true; but have you seen the new Federal Building that replaced the one Timothy McVeigh and his cohorts blew up?  It's quite impressive.  The Federal Seal, the object in the photograph, still stands on the site of the Murrah Building.  The system did what it does - it addapted and evolved.
 
The ability of the system to do violence far outweighs the ability of the citizenry to do violence.  George Orwell illustrated that fact via his classic 1984. The Party of 1984 expects revolt, even wants it; and maintains the military industrial complex by which it expects to profit from that revolt.  It is a calculated,  vicious, cycle. 
 
In the end, the collective hive evolves - whether it be via revolution or reformation.
 
Certainly the Federal Government needs systemic reformation; "It" needs to return to the intended purpose articulated by the writers of the Declaration of Independence:
 
"To secure these rights, men form governments" 
 
We the People - the individual citizens who comprise that government (and its collective corporatist extensions) need to be reminded of that - and make reforming "it" OUR priority;  We the People have the power to alter the institution from within - and redirect it back towards its proper purpose.   That power is squandered through our own apathy - and is best engaged via our own, personal, reformation.  By changing ourselves, we change the system.
 
The longest journey begins with a single, educational, step...
 
 
"To secure these rights, men form governments" 
 
Remember?

103 posted on 06/15/2008 12:59:34 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: B4Ranch

“They want us to sit on our butt in our easy chairs and let them smoothly slip our Constitution out from under us.”
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They have already done that! One MAJOR departure from constitutional requirements is the introduction of fiat money in violation of a clearly stated rule saying ONLY gold or silver may be used as legal tender, yet we have a huge chorus on FR singing hymns to fiat money and telling us that we are better off with fiat money and all who say otherwise are fools or worse. Many of the problems people moan and groan about are the direct result of our worthless funny money yet we have this chorus of FREEPERS saying there is no viable option other than worthless fiat money.
If we are going to have worthless scrip we should at least have demanded that the constitution be amended to allow it, the failure to do so makes a mockery of the whole process.


105 posted on 06/15/2008 2:26:28 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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