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To: Sunnyflorida

“The legislation does not apply inside the CONUS. Sorry.”

Yes it does. Nowhere in the legislation does it make exemptions for CONUS.


245 posted on 06/14/2008 8:14:19 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants

” Nowhere in the legislation does it make exemptions for CONUS.”

I am going to try this one more time: there is a case (Johnson) that gives CONUS detainees access to file writs in Federal. NO MATTER WHAT THIS BILL SAYS. This bill cannot overturn SCOTUS. McCain and you should know that. McCain was stupid to think he can just write a bill that takes away constitutional rights. Any person in CONUS has access to file a Writ. PERIOD.


246 posted on 06/14/2008 8:22:47 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: death2tyrants

There was a former Justice guy on the WSJ Report just now explaining this.

There is a CONSTITUTIONAL right for any person detained inside United States Territory to file a Writ of Habeas Corpus to challenge the detention ANY PERSON DETAINED. This is a CONSTITUTIONAL right.

S. anything cannot abrogate CONSTITUTIONAL rights.

McCain closing GITMO and bringing people to Leavenworth would allow the terrorist detainees to file the writ. Again the bill McCain supports cannot change that, PERIOD. Unless it is in the form of a CONSTITUTIONAL amendment.

The whole reason we had GITMO is because it is outside the United States; and according to Johnson v E-— detainees outside the United States did not have access to federal courts to challenge the detention (i.e. file a Writ). Why the else would we have established GITMO in the first place?

So McCain’s desire to close GITMO and the recent SCOTUS do the exact same thing. Allow the terrorists access to civilian federal courts to challenge the detention. Judges have almost unlimited discretion.

You highlight the problem with McCain he says one thing and does the opposite - I believe because he just does not know what the heck he is doing.


247 posted on 06/14/2008 8:39:51 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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