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Teachers defend shock tactics in DWI program
Associated Press ^ | 6/12/2008 | ALLISON HOFFMAN

Posted on 06/13/2008 5:14:21 AM PDT by libertarian27

Teachers defend shock tactics in DWI program

OCEANSIDE, Calif. (AP) — On a Monday morning last month, highway patrol officers visited 20 classrooms at El Camino High School to announce some horrible news: Several students had been killed in car wrecks over the weekend.

Classmates wept. Some became hysterical.

A few hours and many tears later, though, the pain turned to fury when the teenagers learned that it was all a hoax — a scared-straight exercise designed by school officials to dramatize the consequences of drinking and driving.

As seniors prepare for graduation parties Friday, school officials in the largely prosperous San Diego suburb are defending themselves against allegations they went too far.

At school assemblies, some students held up posters that read: "Death is real. Don't play with our emotions."

Michelle de Gracia, 16, was in physics class when an officer announced that her missing classmate David, a popular basketball player, had died instantly after being rear-ended by a drunken driver. She said she felt nauseated but was too stunned to cry.

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That's right, scare kids to never believe authority figures again.
1 posted on 06/13/2008 5:14:21 AM PDT by libertarian27
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To: libertarian27

Hey, maybe it will lead to them questioning other ‘stuff’ their teachers have pumped into their heads. Like, oh I don’t know, say for example....global warming!


2 posted on 06/13/2008 5:16:46 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: libertarian27

Reason 7,897 that I homeschool. Mental abuse for the good of the children. Idiots.


3 posted on 06/13/2008 5:19:05 AM PDT by Damocles (MexAmeriCananda - Coming Soon To A Global Economy Near You!)
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To: libertarian27
Similar technique currently in School use: sea-levels will rise 100 feet within 10 years, we're killing all the rainforests, extincting earth's wildlife species, and burning all the little remaining oil. Oh, and killing off the American Indian.

Not sure when the "oh, we're just kidding" part comes in though...

4 posted on 06/13/2008 5:19:28 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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"That's right, scare kids to never believe authority figures again."

And make them angry so that they will act more rebellious.

5 posted on 06/13/2008 5:22:47 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: libertarian27

Just how stupid are these teachers? It’s not hard to find valid, honest, and emotionally compelling reasons why kids shouldn’t drink and drive. It is hard (or more likely impossible) to teach children something of value by lying to them. Even after quite a bit of reflection, I am amazed at the stupidity of the people who used this stunt on children.


6 posted on 06/13/2008 5:24:28 AM PDT by RogerD (Educaiton Profesionul)
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To: libertarian27

This does seem like an exceedingly stupid thing to do. Besides, every year I taught HS we lost at least one student to car accidents, often involving alcohol, and it didn’t seem to scare the rest of the kids straight.
susie


7 posted on 06/13/2008 5:27:54 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: libertarian27

Rule of thumb: Lying to convey the truth doesn’t work.


8 posted on 06/13/2008 5:28:48 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: libertarian27

Chicken-little Government Tactics.

I was amazed to see it performed so blatantly in this case.

I’d expect AlGore to do something like this, but jeepers.....

The school psychologist won’t have to worry about budget cuts/s


9 posted on 06/13/2008 5:31:44 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: Mad Dawg

Exactly. It’s more likely to breed rebellion. As a parent I would have been incensed. They would have seen me coming through the door again. What a moronic stunt.


10 posted on 06/13/2008 5:32:20 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I've done here today doesn't force you to have a negative opinion of me....)
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Moreover, it reinforces the message that unless it happens to you, it really isn’t that meaningful. Isn’t their community filled with surviving family members more than willing to share their horror? Can you imagine if you had lost a child and heard that your schools didn’t think your experience meaningful enough?


11 posted on 06/13/2008 5:33:31 AM PDT by naturalized ("The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!")
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To: libertarian27
It does them and it may prevent them from becoming another DUI statistic..Seeing a friend drunk will or should invoke the memory of how they felt when they were told of these deaths, even though they were untrue. The memory may just prevent them from jumping in the car with him or may encourage them to prevent the drunk from getting behind the wheel.
12 posted on 06/13/2008 5:36:32 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: libertarian27
There was an unannounced county disaster drill several years ago (I can't recall the location right now). The officials began the drill by announcing to the local hospital trauma team that the medical helicopter had crashed with unknown casualties to patient and staff. This trauma team included many persons who also worked on the medical helicopter transport team and they were understandably very distressed with the news.

When the staff eventually learned that the "crash" was a drill and that they had not lost friends and colleagues, the officials were fortunate to leave with their lives intact.

Lesson learned: Do not cry wolf with emotions regarding the lives of loved ones.

13 posted on 06/13/2008 5:37:40 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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OCEANSIDE, Calif. (AP) — On a Monday morning last month, highway patrol officers visited 20 classrooms at El Camino High School

"school officials in the largely prosperous San Diego suburb"

Once again, the media shows its tendency to distort the facts when it will make the article more compelling.

Oceanside is not a "largely prosperous" suburb. It is adjacent to Camp Pendleton and, for north county San Diego, is a community of modest means. It would not be wrong to state that of the 10-15 individual cities in north county, that it's average household income is at, or near, the bottom. It is adjacent to prosperous communities, yes -- such as Carlsbad and Encinitas. But no one who lives in San Diego would call Oceanside prosperous.

So why does the media want to dramatize the story? Because scaring inner city teens is not as newsworthy. But scaring, pampered prosperous middle-class kids is.

14 posted on 06/13/2008 5:44:26 AM PDT by tom h
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To: RogerD

Years ago the state police here in Illinois and elsewhere had a device called the CONVINCER. It was sled on an incline. They broiught it to Malls etc. It simulated a crash at 5 miles per hour. It convinced you that hitting another object at only 5 miles per hour without a seat belt would send you through the the windshield of the car.

I’m all for convincing young people who are driving about the risks they take driving when sober let alone drunk, but to do it in a creative honest way.

I’d like to know what MADD thinks about this prank.


15 posted on 06/13/2008 5:51:08 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you, Jimmy Carter for all you've done to make the world a safer place.)
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To: tom h

From the article:
“Oceanside Schools Superintendent Larry Perondi said he fielded only a few calls from parents, while the PTA chapter said it had not heard any complaints.”

Where are the parents?
I can see the idiot program pulling a brain dead stunt like this...oops....but where are the parents?

Has the whole society become numb to action?


16 posted on 06/13/2008 5:58:52 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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"They were traumatized, but we wanted them to be traumatized," said guidance counselor Lori Tauber, who helped organize the shocking exercise and got dozens of students to participate. "That's how they get the message."

Un-friggin-believable!

The real lesson imparted to these kids is don't believe anything authority figures, especilly school officials and police officers, ever tell you.

17 posted on 06/13/2008 6:06:40 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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....it had not heard any complaints... - Really? Hadn't heard about the signs students held up? First, stage the lying hoax, then lie about the complaints. BTW, the hoax went on for hours; students have cell phones and other texting devices. Were any PARENTS told their CHILD was killed? It would seem inevitable.
18 posted on 06/13/2008 6:11:18 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: libertarian27

They should be sued out of their houses and pensions.


19 posted on 06/13/2008 6:20:04 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: Damocles
You only have 7,897 reasons that you home schooled? I thought there would be more....
20 posted on 06/13/2008 6:25:33 AM PDT by Kimmers (Taxation WITH representation ain't much fun either...)
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