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Decision coming June 16, next big day in Haditha case
Defend Our Marines ^ | June 9, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 06/09/2008 6:32:39 PM PDT by RedRover

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To: Mr. Silverback; usmcobra
It's another one of the magnificent cobra's creations. He's such a peach to do these for us ♥
141 posted on 06/14/2008 3:29:03 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: freema

It’s a make-believe war, all about ego trips.

In an actual war, people fight their enemies and not their friends.

Do you even have any idea who Major Donohue is? Do you know how much money he’s raised and who he’s raised it for?

But you’re willing to help trash a retired Marine over a piddling non-issue. I don’t see anything admirable in that.


142 posted on 06/14/2008 4:22:26 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: freema; Mr. Silverback

Just so that you know that picture is unaltered in any way, those green rings are the blade tip electroluminescent formation lights.


143 posted on 06/14/2008 4:24:14 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: RaceBannon

???

wtf?


144 posted on 06/14/2008 5:42:27 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

He’s talking out his ass big time.


145 posted on 06/14/2008 6:02:24 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org freeevanvela.com)
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To: RedRover

Is there a piece of the case the Judge could dismiss due to UCI and other pieces that he could allow prosecution on?


146 posted on 06/14/2008 7:01:17 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
I don't think so. Here are the charges. See what you think...

Charge I: Violation of the UCMJ, Article 92

Specification 1 (Violation of a lawful order): wrongfully failed to accurately report and thoroughly investigate a possible, suspected, or alleged violation of the law of war by Marines under his command. (Maximum punishment dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years).

Charge II: Violation of the UCMJ, Article 92

Specification: (Willful dereliction of duty): willfully failed to report, correct, update or supplement information about the incident in Haditha; willfully failed to accurately report to higher headquarters that the incident constituted a possible or suspected violation of the law of war; and willfully failed to direct a thorough investigation into the incident. (Maximum punishment: dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 6 months)

147 posted on 06/14/2008 7:14:58 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Girlene

re #42...Excellent conclusion...If Ewers was simply there to be a potted plant, they dame well better have a picture of him looking like a potted plant as proof...also-is there any transcript of the prosecution’s meetings that Ewers attended?...

That tv appearance Ewers made should seal the box on this case..

One more thing: Memo to JAGs...it’s not Guilty Until Proven Innocent !

Jaz;RedRover;SmoothSailing- great work guys and thanks for the Ping...


148 posted on 06/14/2008 7:29:05 PM PDT by billmor (The American Voter--the Sleeping Tiger. Kicked in the back end.)
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To: billmor

You’re welcome, bill!


149 posted on 06/14/2008 7:32:53 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

I LOVE you redrover.


150 posted on 06/14/2008 7:37:24 PM PDT by fighting for a ranger (But 4wooden boats comes in a close second!)
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To: RedRover; jude24; P-Marlowe; Girlene

Maybe the judge could split a hair on the “willful” versus “wrongful” distinction between the two charges.

If he decided for some reason that animus toward Chessani was the danger represented by Ewers, then he could say that the “wrongful” charge was simply about lack of adherence to policy which would have been true no matter who the lawyer would be, whereas the “willful” charge could be animus about the internal (personal) mental make-up of Chessani himself.

I know I’m reaching, but it’s the only thing I could try to draw a distinction between.


151 posted on 06/14/2008 7:39:00 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: SeaHawkFan

hehehe...Great observation....Betcha dupa they were told not to call Lt. Gen. Helland...


152 posted on 06/14/2008 7:39:35 PM PDT by billmor (The American Voter--the Sleeping Tiger. Kicked in the back end.)
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To: RedRover

You are a good FRiend.


153 posted on 06/14/2008 7:40:25 PM PDT by lilycicero (Truth.)
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To: jude24

Sir...put yourself in a JAG officer’s place while pleading a case..Would you want the Marine Judge and Marine Jury to know (if you were)an ACLU Democrat pledged to defend any person’s rights but also determined to pull down the military?..You would be lucky not to have your ****s handed to you.

Lancey Howard is right..There is a lot to learn about how the world works...


154 posted on 06/14/2008 7:48:09 PM PDT by billmor (The American Voter--the Sleeping Tiger. Kicked in the back end.)
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To: fighting for a ranger

Aw, shucks...


155 posted on 06/14/2008 7:51:00 PM PDT by RedRover (I have a man-crush on boats myself.)
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To: billmor
Sir...put yourself in a JAG officer’s place while pleading a case..

Not hard.

.Would you want the Marine Judge and Marine Jury to know (if you were)an ACLU Democrat pledged to defend any person’s rights but also determined to pull down the military

Persons "determined to pull down the military" (regardless of affiliation) do not get through the accessions procedure nor the rigors of training.

156 posted on 06/14/2008 7:52:48 PM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: lilycicero

I learned it all from you.


157 posted on 06/14/2008 7:52:56 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: usmcobra

Thanks for the added info, the pic is gorgeous.

Can you point me to the original photo?

BTW, there was an Air Force Osprey at Rockford Airfest last weekend, and those engines leak a ton of oil, or at least they do if they’re locked about 20 degrees forward of vertical.


158 posted on 06/14/2008 7:55:03 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: RedRover

Your great and I heard that from a good friend of mine up near your neck of the woods.


159 posted on 06/14/2008 7:59:30 PM PDT by fighting for a ranger (Too friends in high places!)
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To: fighting for a ranger

If you mean who I think you mean, he’s a terrific guy and will deliver what he promises (how surprising is that?).


160 posted on 06/14/2008 8:01:54 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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