Posted on 06/08/2008 4:54:30 PM PDT by neverdem
Not in my 53 years in America. I'm trying to think of an American dialect that would pronounce it that way but I can't. Nor do we pronounce names like Herbert with a silent 'h.'
Watch TV! The Yuman is a regular with Gingrich and some others.
The ‘erbal is the staple of ads for salad dressings and commentators.
And movies.
The fact you do NOT pronounce the name Herbert with a silent ‘h’ is exactly the proof of the fallacy of ‘erbal “affectation”.
You are clearly “old school”. My deepest respects.
cheers
Meaning
A radical, and apparently mystical, change.
Origin
From Shakespeare’s The Tempest, 1610:
ARIEL [sings]:
Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell
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Hate to bust your bubble.
Now you know.
“A Sea Change”; Lois Gould, 1977. Has a great lesbian sex scene.
[President] Johnson... signed the historic Voting Rights Act on August 6, 1965, which led one observer to declare, "There is no more civil rights movement." Five nights later, the Watts district in Los Angeles erupted in one of many major race riots to come.Weird coincidence, huh? Gee, I'm sure that won't happen again, right after Obama is elected president... Thanks FARS and neverdem.
Drug taking, which had been largely confined to the ghetto and the cultural avant-garde, was mainstreamed and celebrated. A tiny antiwar movement mushroomed into a national mobilization campaign, involving the seizure of college campuses (Columbia University) and resulting in the shooting of student protesters (Kent State).Another weird coincidence. ;')
Bit late for bubbles but read my reply to that assertion.
cheers
The mad mullahs are pretty close to the militay mark. When the discussion is aircraft it's common to describe them as fixed wing or rotary wing.
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'erbal' (herbal with a silent 'h') is not an affectation it is the way herb and herbal are pronounced in the United States. The fact that the names Herb, Herbert and so forth are not pronounced with a silent 'h' is the proof that it is no affectation. Should be obvious.
Clemenza’s post led me to Google the Earl of Oxford, and I must say they do lay out a convincing case for the fellow.
I was disappointed when I found out who Deep Throat was, but this particular revelation is more interesting.
Rather like getting the real names of Mark Twain, Lewis B. Carroll, and Cary Grant to name a few fictious names that have been used in the past.
I don't. But then my father using to pronounce 'among' without the u sound I as an American use. And I didn't pick up my mother's pronunciation of hog or fog, preferring to rhyme them with frog and dog .
But they won when it came to saying human with an h. And I just looked at sherbet on my own and starting pronouncing it without a second r.
I'll never forget ignorantly trying to convince a Chinese who had learned the Queen's English to say "says" as 'sez' not the way it is spelled.
If there really wasn't, then I think the most likely culprit was Marlowe. Marlowe actually possessed the underlying talent for writing, whereas DeVere, from his early writing,s really did not possess the kind gift that one would expect from the greatest wordsmith the English language has known.
I think Woodward and Bernstein were essentially lying as to who Deep Throat really was. I tend to think it was actually Al Haig. Haig and Woodward actually knew each other when Woodward was a Navy Lieutenant working for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Woodward would make visits to the National Security Council's *Command Center* in the basement of the White House. General Haig had an office there.
In a radio interview in 1977, Victor Lasky, author of the bestselling book It Didn't Start With Watergate (Dutton, 1977) told talk show host George Putnam that he emphatically believed there was no "Deep Throat." Taking note of Woodward and Bernstein's claim to have met him in a Washington, DC parking garage late at night, Lasky remarked that if they had actually done so, they would have been mugged.
I still believe Lasky was right.
I've never heard anyone use "yuman" for "human." Perhaps you are mistaken, and the word you heard was "Yuman," which refers to Indians who inhabit the lower Colorado River valley--or to citizens of a city in southwestern Arizona.
I would like to set you straight:
Many instances on TV including a couple of times by Newt Ginfrich and others. I’m a linguist, so I spot it..
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