Catholics Debate Obama Vote

townhall.com ^ | June 06, 2008 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

[Eva]

This is from American Thinker:

Pope Benedict XVI (writing as Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger) give an equally stringent message to Catholics about liberation theology regarding the perversion of the Christian understanding of the “poor”:

“In its positive meaning the Church of the poor signifies the preference given to the poor, without exclusion, whatever the form of their poverty, because they are preferred by God…But the theologies of liberation…go on to a disastrous confusion between the poor of the Scripture and the proletariat of Marx. In this way they pervert the Christian meaning of the poor, and they transform the fight for the rights of the poor into a class fight within the ideological perspective of the class struggle.”

According to Pope Benedict’s instruction on liberation theology, our understanding of the virtues, faith, hope and charity are subjugated to the new Marxist order:

Faith becomes “fidelity to history.”

We are the ones we’ve been waiting for, to bring about the final fruition of the class struggle.

Hope becomes “confidence in the future.”

Yes, we can change the world; we don’t need God. Our collective redemption comes when we engage in the Marxist class struggle.

Charity becomes “option for the poor.”

All are not created equal. Special political privilege for the oppressed, socialism, will set us free.

It’s the dawn of a new age.

[j_tull]

Since most RC’s I know are also union thugs, no question. Anyone not voting for Osamabamba will be sanctioned.

[kellynla]

“Since most RC’s I know are also union thugs, no question?”

You might want to expand your group of acquaintances. LOL

Or is anyone who is a union member considered by you to be a “thug”.

“Anyone not voting for Osamabamba will be sanctioned?”

And just how would anyone know who voted for whom?

You are sober aren’t you, Sailor? ;-}

[j_tull]

Or is anyone who is a union member considered by you to be a “thug”. yes

And just how would anyone know who voted for whom? thuggery

You are sober aren’t you, Sailor? ;-}

as far as you know, absolutely. 8^)

[Cuchulain]

Lopez.

[kellynla]

Or is anyone who is a union member considered by you to be a “thug”. yes
And just how would anyone know who voted for whom? thuggery

well, at least you don't hid your bigotry & ignorance


how you managed to get in much less remain in the USN with that attitude & stupidity borders on criminal
glad I didn't have to serve with you...
you wouldn't have made 20 days much less 20 years.

[SumProVita]

I am voting FOR what is best in this situation. I live in the REAL world ....not the world of dreams.

[socialismisinsidious]

Did you read the entire article? Non negotiable means something.

[E. Cartman]

I am voting FOR what is best in this situation. I live in the REAL world ....not the world of dreams.

So, you think you should follow whatever someone else dictates to you? How very brave. In your next life, I hope you come back as something with a spine.

[j_tull]

Good heavens kellyn. How did you survive a day in Uncle Sam's canoe club? Your complete lack of a sense of humor, coupled your total inability to detect sarcasm must have made your Navy days fairly painful. I guessing you must have been a junior nuke officer, all brains, no sense. < /sarcasm > sheesh.

[Gondring]

Did you read the entire article?

Yes. Did you?

Non negotiable means something

Of course it does. And the Pope said: "...she is thereby consciously drawing particular attention to principles which are not negotiable. Among these the following emerge clearly today: the protection of life in all its stages..."

Okay, so tell me how the death penalty and war don't fit into that non-negotiable category.

[socialismisinsidious]

Catholic Doctrine states that war and capital punishment are justifiable under certain circumstances. I’m not going to fight theology with you. Look it up, read the Catechism of the Catholic Church if you are interested in learning more.