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Catholics Debate Obama Vote
townhall.com ^ | June 06, 2008 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 06/08/2008 10:22:04 AM PDT by kellynla

Can a Catholic be for Barack Obama? The question has been raised by a law professor at Pepperdine University, who went from being a Mitt Romney adviser to an Obama supporter. The question is further raised by the appearance of the angry Rev. Michael Pfleger, a longtime friend of the Democratic nominee who recently preached at Obama's former Trinity church.

Since this topic was recently a matter of talking heads' concerns, I was asked, in all seriousness, if Catholics can even vote. After all, war is bad. The death penalty is bad. Abortion is bad. John McCain supports the war on terror and capital punishment, but he is against abortion. Obama is antiwar and anti-death penalty but pro-abortion. So neither wins. Or does Obama win? "Can Catholics vote for anyone?" readers asked.

The answer is not up to me. The individual Catholic derives an answer through reflection on the demands of his or her conscience, informed by the teaching of the Church. Neither of those steps can be glossed over. And there can be no mistaking what responsibilities the Catholic voter faces.

E-mailers have also asked, as the following did: "You are, of course, aware that the Catholic Church also sees contraception as a sin as well. Since means never justify the ends, voting for a candidate that promotes contraception as an alternative to abortion is also wrong. Without researching, I assume all major candidates have no problem with contraception, therefore, no candidate should get Catholic votes by your line of reasoning. I'm sorry for this rant, but I do not like people playing politics with my religion."

It is true that no presidential candidate is going to call for a ban on contraception. That's not a serious consideration. But politics can never be wholly divorced from religion. Our religious morality necessarily informs our political judgments.

Pope Benedict XVI, in a speech to European politicians in 2006, offered some instruction for the Catholic conscience: "As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, the principal focus of her interventions in the public arena is the protection and promotion of the dignity of the person, and she is thereby consciously drawing particular attention to principles which are not negotiable. Among these the following emerge clearly today: the protection of life in all its stages... recognition and promotion of the natural structure of the family... and the protection of the rights of parents to educate their children."

That "not negotiable" is not to be missed.

The thing about abortion is, it's not just any other issue. As serious as so many others are, abortion is not open to debate; it falls into the category of non-negotiable.

So can a Catholic vote for a politician who supports legal abortion? Providing guidance, Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver writes that a Catholic voter would "need a compelling, proportionate reason to justify it. ... It's the kind of reason we will be able to explain, with a clean heart, to the victims of abortion when we meet them face to face in the next life -- which we most certainly will. If we're confident that these victims will accept our motives as something more than an alibi, then we can proceed."

The Catholic Catechism instructs that a child "must be treated from conception as a person." Obama said that he would never want his daughters to be "punished" with the birth of an unplanned baby, as if it were a thing to be disposed of. As an Illinois state senator, he opposed legislation that would protect babies born alive in botched abortion attempts. He explained, "Whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a 9-month-old -- child that was delivered to term ... it would essentially bar abortions, because the Equal Protection Clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute." That would be a child, albeit not a 9-month-old child, whose life he dismissed. This is the Democrats' candidate for president.

Catholics need to know what their Church teaches. Know your candidate. Know abortion isn't just any issue. It's a grave offense and betrayal to protecting the most innocent human life. If you're a Catholic who honestly can see how Obama's election as president won't contribute to or compound that offence, go in peace. I don't see it. I don't see how anyone can see it. And so for those who don't get a vote, for those who have been murdered in the name of "choice," this Catholic will cast hers against him in November.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; catholics; catholicvote; election; prolife
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1 posted on 06/08/2008 10:22:04 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: Salvation; NYer; narses

ping


2 posted on 06/08/2008 10:22:31 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
... who went from being a Mitt Romney adviser to an Obama supporter.

Which shows that he is well versed in political expediency.

3 posted on 06/08/2008 10:25:30 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: kellynla

Can a Catholic be for Barack Obama?

No, nor can any other true Christian.


4 posted on 06/08/2008 10:30:49 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: kellynla

I thought B.O. was the “messiah” (cough)?

Now where are those pesky nails...


5 posted on 06/08/2008 10:32:29 AM PDT by max americana
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To: DarthVader

Kansas’ governor, Sebilius, is supposedly in charge of Catholic outreach for Obama and wants more than anything to be chosen as VP. However, she’s been enjoined from taking communion because she is, first and foremost, a pro-abort politician. And she was just caught trying to stiff the Kansas taxpayers with the bill for a party she threw for her biggest benefactor and at-birth abortionist, George Tiller and some of his abortionist friends.


6 posted on 06/08/2008 10:36:05 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: kellynla
"Can a Catholic be for Barack Obama?"

Sure. Same as the Jews voted for Keith Ellison.

7 posted on 06/08/2008 10:37:55 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: kellynla
I was asked, in all seriousness, if Catholics can even vote. After all, war is bad. The death penalty is bad. Abortion is bad.

How insulting. This question was asked by a Clueless, whose goal was to insult and who has no idea what it means to be a Catholic, knows nothing of the Catholic Church and doesn't really want to know.

Worth repeating:
Catholics need to know what their Church teaches. Know your candidate. Know abortion isn't just any issue.
8 posted on 06/08/2008 10:39:42 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: DarthVader
Can a Catholic be for Barack Obama?

No, nor can any other true Christian.

I used to have a quote by our pastor as my tagline some time ago. It was one of those rare occassions where he takes off his clerical collar - when the discussion is political.

"I don't know how any Christian can go to Church on Sunday and vote for a democrat on Tuesday."

9 posted on 06/08/2008 10:41:55 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO in Nov.")
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To: kellynla
Can a Catholic be for Barack Obama?
 
No.  The Catholic Church has denounced liberation theology, socialism, and is passionately pro-life.  (Nor does the Church endorse unrestrained Capitalism, but neither does America.)
 
The Vatican has renewed its commitment to the war on terror and has condemned climate alarmists.   The Church has long aknowledged freedom as the safekeeper of the natural law and of human rights. 
 
A Catholic can vote for a Democrat but not for the radical Barack Obama.  Obama is a finger in the face of the See of Peter.
 
 
 

10 posted on 06/08/2008 10:46:56 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: kellynla

We stopped Saddam Hussein’s reign of terror. He was responsible for the deaths of 1.3 million innocents. We don’t target innocents and go out of our way to protect them. The enemy slaughters innocents. This Catholic is behind a war whose purpose is to stop evil.

Barack Obama would not even vote yes to protect an aborted baby who was alive when ripped from the womb. How can any Catholic support that?


11 posted on 06/08/2008 10:47:05 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I say Amen to your pastor!


12 posted on 06/08/2008 10:47:31 AM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Arrowhead1952

Your pastor is wise.


13 posted on 06/08/2008 10:48:42 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: kellynla
It's the kind of reason we will be able to explain, with a clean heart, to the victims of abortion when we meet them face to face in the next life -- which we most certainly will.

No offense intended, but is this really Catholic doctrine?

Every fertilized egg, natural miscarriage and induced abortion is an immortal soul that presumably goes to heaven, since it has had no chance to sin? That will significantly increase the population.

14 posted on 06/08/2008 10:49:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan

“but is this really Catholic doctrine?”

is what Catholic docrine?


15 posted on 06/08/2008 10:52:13 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

The writer must not be familiar with the “Just War Doctrine” of the Catholic Church.


16 posted on 06/08/2008 10:52:22 AM PDT by Cuchulain ("...never treat with the enemy; never surrender to his mercy, but fight to the finish.")
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To: kellynla
Can a Catholic be for Barack Obama?

The question should be how could an American vote for Obama.
Should not any person that wants to be the President of the United States at least believe in their core that America is the greatest Nation on the planet and its people are the best?
I know it is not a written requirement in the Constitution but it is one of those things that our founders could never have believed needed addressed.

17 posted on 06/08/2008 11:01:09 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Patriot Guard Riders - Standing for those that stood for us.)
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To: kellynla

Here’s my debate: NO.

It isn’t just Obambi’s disregard for life, it is his Marxian worldview and his choice of friends.


18 posted on 06/08/2008 11:05:25 AM PDT by OpusatFR (School of Cynics)
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To: kellynla

The answer is an emphatic NO.


19 posted on 06/08/2008 11:05:40 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: kellynla

-— Can a Catholic be for Barack Obama? -—

Not one that’s got an ounce of morals.


20 posted on 06/08/2008 11:06:31 AM PDT by boycott
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