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Now Hear This, Now Hear This.......American Conservatives Speaking
Col. Riley's Corner ^ | Col. Riley

Posted on 06/07/2008 6:52:20 AM PDT by do the dhue

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To: rockinqsranch

The People
The Problem


121 posted on 06/08/2008 12:36:38 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: ex-snook
Yes this does sound heretical but perhaps helpful to upward mobility to put wealth back into general circulation.

The "Death Tax" does do this, somewhat. I used to be under the assumption that the death tax was inherently wrong, but now I see that was an incorrect assumption.

It can be wrong, if it is employed merely as an additional revenue generating tool, or as a way of controlling social policy, etc.

But if we view tax as something close to merely a reflection of the benefits gained by an individual by having the government versus anarchy, then it can be seen that those with wealth benefit far more from the institution of government than someone who does not. (An anarchic system would be very vulnerable to brigandry, and there's no way the stock market could exist to allow individuals so many paper billions of dollars.)

Real Property taxes are another, yet they hit only one segment of wealth.

It's a difficult question, but I believe it is important to understanding the wealth gap--a phenomenon that has brought about the downfall of civilizations throughout history, even today. I believe we have restistances to its effects, but we are not immune.

122 posted on 06/08/2008 12:51:05 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
This guy is traditional conservative through and through. I thought I could hear Barry Goldwater or Ronald Reagan speaking through Barr.

It's a shame that so many so-called conservatives have forgotten that voice.

I don't know that Baldwin has that same understanding or experience. Besides, the Constitution Party jumped the shark a while ago. I say this as a one-time ardent supporter.

123 posted on 06/08/2008 12:53:00 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Your use of the word “we” is curious. Do you believe the collective should make these decisions or should the owners of the resources be free to trade with the consumers of the resources?


124 posted on 06/08/2008 1:55:20 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Changing the subject, eh? I thought we were talking about public, not private.


125 posted on 06/08/2008 3:23:26 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

I thought we had exhausted the subject, just like the soil if you mine it growing crops.

And no, the subject was using oil inside the borders of the US. Much if which is privately owned. And the rest which is currently owned by the collective should be auctioned off to the highest bidder.


126 posted on 06/08/2008 3:31:18 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Gondring

You dragged the conversation into agriculture but ignored the rest of my post. Should we conserve our reserves of iron ore and let others deplete theirs first? Or copper, or uranium? All the minerals we mine inside our borders?


127 posted on 06/08/2008 3:44:18 PM PDT by DManA
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To: yldstrk
Contribuye unless you want Obie in office.

Why? is this a protection racket?

128 posted on 06/08/2008 4:30:01 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: do the dhue
lol
Just get some foil and make a new hat. That is what I do when I lose mine.

Already finished ;)

Hope that more people will read your post today--probably when they should be working--Col. Riley's site is a very interesting visit.

Cheers!

129 posted on 06/09/2008 2:40:37 AM PDT by MaggieCarta ("Cold-hearted" Conservative and proud of it, man.)
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To: Gondring
"It's a difficult question, but I believe it is important to understanding the wealth gap--a phenomenon that has brought about the downfall of civilizations throughout history, even today. I believe we have restistances to its effects, but we are not immune. "

Thanks for the exchange. I wish someone with your thoughts were running for President. The growing wealth/income disparity could be just the slow boiling water for the US. Some think we should be a pure textbook economy but we are a political economy with the overtones that voting implies. A gated community around dollars has joined the gated community around real estate awaiting the eventual surge of the serfs. But to what end considering the liquidity of $? The balance of government conceived by the Founding Fathers needs to be applied to the economic world for the long range good of America.

130 posted on 06/09/2008 7:12:29 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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McBush and Hussein Obama are of one voice on amnesty for illegals. Search for “SECRETS in McCAIN’s AMNESTY bill” on Y**Tube for a start...


131 posted on 06/13/2008 9:59:33 AM PDT by IdahoVeteran (McCain puts illegals ahead of American families)
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