Posted on 06/04/2008 9:19:54 PM PDT by B-Chan
OK, thanks! I hadn’t occurred to me that store honey was pasteurized.
Possum Living- Dolly Freed
I’m stockpiling ammo. Then, when real hard times hit, I can expropriate these stupid hippies from their chickens, eggs and vegetables. (If their neighbors in the ‘hood haven’t cannibalized them first.)
“Since we planted our parkway (that useless space between the sidewalk and the street that is technically city property) with vegetables, several of our neighbors have planted their own victory gardens.”
I’m sure the plants are well watered by every passing canine and that soil ought to be rich with all the great organic stuff off the street. Makes me hungry!
This guy is a poseur.
“Ask anyone who is a serious gardner or a farmer, and they will tell you that growing enough food for a family to actually live on is a major operation and would probably require several acres to get enough diversity and to rotate crops each season. Never mind that a hailstorm can wipe out the entire drop in a few minutes or that you are constantly concerned about infestations, varmints, and the weather. Then you have to preserve everything so your 1-month crop can last for 12 months. It ain’t easy by a long shot.”
That is true if you are talking about wheat, rice, cattle, sheep, etc. But most vegetables can be harvested 3-4 times a year. Granted that depends on your climate. Small Plot Intensive Farming is still hard work, but can be done even on a part time basis.
“Where can you buy steak seeds?”
You would probably have to go back to when you ate meat from animals that were raised in your region. So beef could be rare. The old cattle drive trails would have to be reopened for perhaps 3/4ths of the nation to continue to get beef. Also depends on if railways still exist or not.
I miss living at the home I grew up in. We had that typical Arlington lot that was skinny, but went back 150’. We had the back portion sectioned off for a garden. We had a peach tree, plum tree, blackberries, raspberries, watermelon, onion and potatoes. Also had a HUGE pecan tree that I miss dearly. Always had many a bag of pecans. Not to mention the old clothes line. But divorce ended that. Mother kept the house, but she had to work 60-70 hours a week to make ends meet. So the garden died off.
--try that from north of Denver to the Canadian border--
I know I’ve got at least two big boxes of old Mother Earth News up in the attic, guess I’ll have to dig ‘em out now.
Which is why I said in my post depending on your climate.
Which of today's cities is this possible in?? None. The only place you can do this kind of thing is in an OLD small town. In a city, you'll be taking mass transit to get to any of these places.
I grew up in an old river town where we walked to school, church, library, theaters, Woolworth's. Today I live in the same town in a better neighborhood. Nobody in this neighborhood walks anywhere except to walk their dogs.
There are still plenty of cities that you can do that. Only problem is the inner city housing, condos and apartments, is to expensive for most people. Also commercial location has followed along with the Suburb/multi 200-400 houses subdivisions. That will have to change. Fort Worth for example has designated several areas to be redone as “villages”. Using Multi-Use zoning you have an urban center that becomes more dense the further out you go. That creates several mini downtowns within a large Urban city.
Really?? Which ones?? I've lived in rural/country, a medium-sized city (300K), a megalopolis, and now live in a small town (20K), and in NONE of those places could you do what the previous poster described (walk to church, work, etc).
Surprisingly, the place that came closest was the megalopolis (Houston), because it has NO zoning---so neighborhood clusters formed naturally, with at least "some" services in walking distance---but not most.
"Using Multi-Use zoning you have an urban center that becomes more dense the further out you go. That creates several mini downtowns within a large Urban city."
Ah, yes--the "government knows better" solution. I'm not aware of anywhere that this communist solution (and that's what it is), is actually working.
Fort Worth fits what she described and no the urban centers are market driven. It just required the city to get with it and provide the type of zoning to accommodate it. Those urban centers are doing very well. Arlington is another and Dallas is getting there, especially with the Empress out of the way. I have heard Houston has moved in the same direction, but have not been there to explore.
You da*n sure didn't! This subsistence style sounds like my family during and after WWII -- except we certainly didn't have the left-wing, urban hippie, eco-freak bias that this article exudes...
We had a big "Victory Garden", and raised chickens and rabbits for eggs and meat. Come to think of it, though, as a kid, I never caught one of our bunnies producing an Easter egg... '-)
And I never had to worry about losing toys under my bed: that space was always crammed full of Mason jar cases of home-canned vegetables...
I must admit, we never "ate better"!
I think it depends on how old the city is and how it was built out. In cities with older urban cores like New York, Boston, Chicago, and San Francisco you can do this - no problem. It's just that the neighborhoods in which it is possible have become very popular with upscale professionals, and are thus very expensive. More moderately-priced suburban subdivisions tend to sprawl for miles, leaving nothing close to anything else - you may have have to drive through five miles of tract homes before stumbling across one inadequate strip mall.
You can get raw honey in stores as well - just read the labels
Look for SueBee's "Aunt Sue's", for ex.
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