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Pi, Phi and the Great Pyramid
Al-Ahram Weekly ^ | 27 Mar 2008 | Assem Deif

Posted on 06/03/2008 7:59:35 AM PDT by BGHater

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To: RightWhale
Peter Tompkins believed the so called sepulcher is measure. It is a volumetric standard at the constant temperature/pressure inside the massive structure.

He details how derived but I alas, don't remember all the mensurational details.

21 posted on 06/03/2008 3:11:09 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: bert

Who would have needed such a standard?


22 posted on 06/03/2008 3:18:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: RightWhale; blam; SunkenCiv; Coyoteman; All

“..but who built it?

What is the status of theories that they 3 pyramids may have been built much earlier, as well as the sphynx. I remember the theory that the sphinx might be at least 9 thousand years old becouse of signs of erosion down its side. If it was built back during a rainier period. If the pyramids were built around the same time, the concavity in the sides may have been a protection against rain erosion. Given Firestone’s theory about cosmic catastrophy, perhaps the “much older” hypothesis could use another look. Could there have been earlier civilizations that were destroyed in the aftermath?


23 posted on 06/03/2008 4:35:47 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Right. We do not have a clue who built it or the Sphinx. We do not have a clue what it was for. We do not have a clue how it was built. We do not have a clue when it was built.


24 posted on 06/03/2008 4:38:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: RightWhale

......Who would have needed such a standard?.....

Now think on that....who needs standards? merchants and customers, especially those who deal in products like grain or maybe beer.

It is by the way, plural because other pyramidal standards are noted, including length and lattitude.

We sell grain by the bushel, a holdover from some ancient standard of measure. Strangely believe it geodesic measurements are pretty much the same today as then.


25 posted on 06/03/2008 5:00:03 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: BGHater

For the record, the Golden Mean used for design yields pleasing objects or buildings.

A typical credit card is a golden mean rectangle....


26 posted on 06/03/2008 5:01:51 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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The need to resurvey Egyptian fields after frequent Nile flooding is often cited as a reason for development of Egyptian mathematics. However, it might be noted that Egyptian math was not highly developed. That happened in other regions such as Greece, Persia, India. The level of knowledge of the planet and geometry in the Great Pyramid is high no doubt, but whether it was Egyptian at all is in doubt unless you ask the current Egyptian curator of antiquities Aiwass.


27 posted on 06/03/2008 5:06:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: RightWhale

I would not want to argue the point, but suggest a very readable and interesting book. It belies your thoughts and offers severeal proofs of the exceptional egyptian grasp and practcal use of geometry. Pretty hard to beat for $5.00 used

This thead has forced me to read it again. For me it is a standard reference especially for the section on the Golden Section. I always use those proportions in things I design

http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Great-Pyramid-Peter-Tompkins/dp/0883659573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212540327&sr=8-1


28 posted on 06/03/2008 5:52:09 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: gleeaikin
What is the status of theories that they 3 pyramids may have been built much earlier, as well as the sphynx. I remember the theory that the sphinx might be at least 9 thousand years old becouse of signs of erosion down its side. If it was built back during a rainier period. If the pyramids were built around the same time, the concavity in the sides may have been a protection against rain erosion. Given Firestone’s theory about cosmic catastrophy, perhaps the “much older” hypothesis could use another look. Could there have been earlier civilizations that were destroyed in the aftermath?

Unless some concrete evidence shows up, I would put those ideas with the ancient astronaut ideas -- and I wouldn't bet the rent money on either.

29 posted on 06/03/2008 6:41:01 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: shibumi

“Behold the power of Phi” ping


30 posted on 06/03/2008 8:19:06 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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What is the status of theories that they 3 pyramids may have been built much earlier, as well as the sphynx. I remember the theory that the sphinx might be at least 9 thousand years old becouse of signs of erosion down its side. If it was built back during a rainier period. If the pyramids were built around the same time, the concavity in the sides may have been a protection against rain erosion. Given Firestone's theory about cosmic catastrophy, perhaps the "much older" hypothesis could use another look. Could there have been earlier civilizations that were destroyed in the aftermath?
Robert Schoch's analysis of the water erosion on the Sphinx and Dobecki's of subsurface weathering below the ground level (as well as the surviving New Kingdom copies of Old Kingdom documents) indicate that the Great Sphinx at Giza, and the Sphinx and Valley Temples are older than the Giza pyramids.

One of the early European archaeologists (I don't remember which one, although I guess I could try a hard drive search, or a web search) recorded what was left of a text (painted on?) surviving on plaster in the Grand Gallery of the Great Pyramid, which referred to such-and-such a year of the cattle drive (the Egyptians didn't have a transcendental, theoretical calendar as we do) during the reign of Khufu, which does not, alas, survive.

Also (and much better known) in the corbel chambers over the "King's Chamber" there is some ancient graffiti, including the text (with cartouche, if memory serves) that sez, "how mighty is the 'Great White Crown of Khufu' (work) gang", left there by some literate supervisor of one of the construction teams.

The exterior of the Great Pyramid used to be dressed with nice smooth white limestone (some of that survives even on Khufu), and according to at least one ancient Greek source which survives (again, I forget who), those were carved with hieroglyphic text, I suppose it could have been something about the pharaoh, but also could have been the Pyramid Texts. Those stones probably still exist, but they were quarried for re-use in buildings of medieval Cairo. A couple of hundred years ago, the (probably unfinished) Pyramid of Khufu's elder son and successor (not Khafre), constructed at Abu Roash, was uncovered and used as a quarry. Not sure what Bauval would say about the impact of Khufu's son's pyramid not getting built at Giza, but I do know that I don't care.

Do a search for "Campbell's Tomb" site:freerepublic.com for more (I'm lazy).
31 posted on 06/03/2008 10:06:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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...therefore...the Great Pyramid started out as a woodshed...and the project went totally out of control!


32 posted on 06/03/2008 10:10:49 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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