GM closing 4 truck and SUV plants in North America (Global Warming BS already killing jobs)

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[Maringa]

We can argue till we are blue in the face about global warning and how it is influencing oil prices...but the reality is that whatever happens in the future regarding future supplies/opening new oil fields/extraction, etc., we are still dealing with China, India, etc. buying up everything else we don’t buy (Market Supply). Also, policy change will take eons to occur...

Prices will remain high, and people will simply quick buying SUV’s & Trucks unless they can afford to pay for the gas...I have a huge SUV, and it is hitting my pocket book ($130 per fill up). Unless I feel confident that prices will go down and stay down in the long term, I will never buy such a large vehicle again. I have just paid it off and have thought of ways to sell or get rid of it..Paid $35K - can only get $12K for it now-—I can’t justify buying a new vehicle at this time to get the payback needed within a reasonable time. I will keep it for the foreseable future and use our other car to do most of the local commuting. Many are in the same position I’m in, but I’m not looking for a government hand-out, or a government solution. I made a bad choice and will have to live with it...

[cake_crumb]

Um...SUV’s already average 20 MPG....

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

I'd say you're both right.

The GW BS has created a political environment, where high gas prices are not only tolerated — they're celebrated (in secret, in the ante-rooms for the show trials for the oil industry).

[Dixie Yooper]

I just paid $78 to fill up my tank this morning. THAT's painful.

Spending over $40 to fill up my Corolla twice a week hurts.

[Non-Sequitur]

Why do you think gas is $4 a gallon when we have 112 billion barrels of oil here at home?

Politicians, both Republican and Democrat, have fought oil drilling since long before global warming was ever heard of. They still are.

[tobyhill]

You laid 2 cause out, supply and demand. Of the two cause one of them is strictly confined by global warming, SUPPLY.

[cake_crumb]

"They are Democrat Union Jobs but it still hurts the economy and the only upside maybe that when they lose their jobs and see how the Global Warmist are effecting the production they just may wise up."

LOL! You're dreaming. They'll blame Big Industry and the Bush\Cheney\Halliburton oil "conspiracy".

[Moose4]

That’s about where I am...I have a ‘96 Ram 1500 half-ton with a 26-gallon tank. 11 mpg around town. Fortunately I only have to drive it one or two days a week now, mostly I drive my wife’s little Focus (23-25 mpg) and she stays at home. But still, in a few weeks, when I do finally have to refill the tank, I’m looking at $80 minimum.

}:-)4

[tobyhill]

but Global Warming is their latest excuse to prohibit drilling even at the expense of $4.25 a gallon.

[cake_crumb]

Right. Blame the global warmists for forcing the polar bear to be listed under the Endangered Species Act, thus SCREWING the oil exploration leases coming up for sale inland and off the coast of Alaska, too.

[JamesP81]

I’ve been thinking about buying a sports sedan or a sports car. Given the way fuel prices are, they ought to be getting pretty cheap.

[Non-Sequitur]

The truth "IS"......... its the UNIONS costing all the jobs..

Some of the professions seeing the biggest job loss are IT, engineering, financial, service, and medical admin. None of those are unionized. The fact is that you could do away withe Unions tomorrow and unless people are willing to work for a fraction of their current salary, jobs will still stream overseas.

[MinnesotaLibertarian]

Are you really that obtuse? If you have a more fuel efficient vehicle, you don’t have to fill up as often. I get over 30 MPG on my car, a Honda Accord Hybrid, and I’ll bet it cost less than whatever gas-guzzler you’re driving.

[KarlInOhio]

Mises’s account is confirmed by a remarkable book that appeared in 1939, published by Vanguard Press in New York City (and unfortunately out of print today). It is The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism by Guenter Reimann, then a 35-year old German writer.

It is available in print again. Ironically it is sold by the Mises Institute itself: http://www.mises.org/store/Vampire-Economy-Doing-Business-Under-Fascism-The-P371.aspx

[stockpirate]

If you apply this to our energy sector I think you will see that the socialists have already nationalized this industry.

[tobyhill]

As I’ve been accuse of having a dream. I have a dream that one day the union bums will wake up and realize that the Democrats that they keep electing have used Global Warming to literally put them out of a job. GM was the first to go “Green” with their Flex Fuel trucks and SUVS but look at what’s still happening to them.

[kempo]

Do you not understand the reason we have $4.00 gas is because of the “man made global warming BS”. the liberal Democrats are using that reason to keep the oil companies from drilling off the cast of the gulf and in Alaska. Yes, we are paying $4.00 a gallon in the name of “man made global warming”.

[mysterio]

If I were in charge of GM, I would convert those factories to make 1995 geo metros.

You think they wouldn't sell them?

[MinnesotaLibertarian]

You laid 2 cause out, supply and demand. Of the two cause one of them is strictly confined by global warming, SUPPLY.

First of all, learn how to write past grade school level, because I'm having difficulty making sense of that. My best guess is that you're saying that fear of global warming is the exclusive cause of reduced oil supplies. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying that we're not drilling enough? If so, that's largely because of other (probably bogus) environmental concerns, but not global warming.

I think lack of refining capacity and Mideast turmoil are both bigger factors, but most important is the fact that we've already hit most of the easy reserves. Getting more oil will become more and more difficult over time.

[tobyhill]

Then spell out the “other environmental concerns”. You're not even a Libertarian, you're a liberal Democrat because you use the same liberal Democrat talking points. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?