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NASA'S Phoenix Lander Robotic Arm Camera Sees Possible Ice
NASA ^ | 5/30/08

Posted on 05/31/2008 12:00:48 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

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1 posted on 05/31/2008 12:00:48 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood
If you look at the pebble just below the larger rock under the landing leg about 1/4 into the picture, it says "HA".


3 posted on 05/31/2008 12:10:24 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO (or HRC).")
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To: F15Eagle

They don’t have Happy Ice up there? Explains a lot.


4 posted on 05/31/2008 12:12:37 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Dawnsblood
Sure you're not getting this news from a hacked web site?


5 posted on 05/31/2008 12:34:34 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald (B VY)
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To: Dawnsblood
http://twitter.com/MarsPhoenix
6 posted on 05/31/2008 12:40:39 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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I suppose it could be, but 1) it is the official Jet Propulsion Lab website and 2) they just announced the same on Fox (though I will admit that since I am only listening, I did not see a picture there). Still these are Gov computers and hackers do love to target them so it is well within the realm of possiblity.


7 posted on 05/31/2008 12:42:40 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

Well tell them to get busy protecting our borders.


8 posted on 05/31/2008 12:44:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ( :: FREE LAZAMATAZ! ::)
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To: Arrowhead1952

By golly you’re right! If we see one with LOL we’ll know for sure somethings up ;o)


9 posted on 05/31/2008 12:49:49 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Dawnsblood

I suppose now the NHL will want a franchise for a hockey team, eh?


10 posted on 05/31/2008 12:53:51 PM PDT by 43north (I did not leave the Republican Party; the Republican Party left me.)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
Hacker changes Phoenix Mars Lander Web site

2 hours ago

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — A spokeswoman for the Phoenix Mars Lander mission says a hacker took over the mission's public Web site during the night and changed its lead news story.

Spokeswoman Sara Hammond says a mission update posted Friday was replaced with a hacker's signature and a link redirecting visitors to an overseas Web site.

Hammond says the site hosted by the University of Arizona has been taken off line while computer experts work to correct the problem.

The Mars Lander vehicle touched down on the Red Planet last Sunday to search for traces of organic compounds that are the basic building blocks of life.

11 posted on 05/31/2008 1:03:54 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Dawnsblood

“My heart be still!!!”

NOT!!!

Whoopty freakin doo. They’ve only been telling us there’s water on Mars for like what - like the last ten years or so?

I really don’t care if they find ice.
Wake me up if they find a Slurpee!


12 posted on 05/31/2008 1:04:30 PM PDT by djf
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I saw that earlier,, wow..

the noive of some folks..

Press Release

Hard Substrate, Possibly Ice, Uncovered Under the Mars Lander05.31.08

The Robotic Arm Camera on NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander captured this image underneath the lander on the fifth Martian day, or sol, of the mission. Descent thrusters on the bottom of the lander are visible at the top of the image.

This view from the north side of the lander toward the southern leg shows smooth surfaces cleared from overlying soil by the rocket exhaust during landing. One exposed edge of the underlying material was seen in Sol 4 images, but the newer image reveals a greater extent of it. The abundance of excavated smooth and level surfaces adds evidence to a hypothesis that the underlying material is an ice table covered by a thin blanket of soil.

The bright-looking surface material in the center, where the image is partly overexposed may not be inherently brighter than the foreground material in shadow.

The Phoenix Mission is led by the University of Arizona, Tucson, on behalf of NASA. Project management of the mission is by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Spacecraft development is by Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver.

Image Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech//University of Arizona/Max Planck Institute

13 posted on 05/31/2008 1:08:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: djf

It’s one thing to know there is water ice there.

It is another thing entirely to be able to examine it and understand it’s nature. Can martian life exist there today just under the surface? And for us, how can we exploit it when we one day live there?

Understanding the details is how science works.

It IS exciting. To think that humans did not even know how to fly just over 100 years ago. To today, examining an alien worlds surface! The amount of science learned in a single human lifespan is staggering.

I would recalibrate my sense of wonder if I were you.


14 posted on 05/31/2008 1:18:37 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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15 posted on 05/31/2008 1:23:14 PM PDT by shineon
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Don’t worry about my sense of wonder.

I participate in almost all these threads. I remember my dad reading the newspaper in bed one morning with “GLENN DOES THREE ORBITS” splashed on the cover.

I remember me and my mom and probably a billion other people watching a fuzzy picture of a very bundled up guy sorta bouncing down and the audio you could barely make out “That’s one small step...”

BUT!!!!

I am already quite firmly convinced there is AT LEAST simple lifeforms on Mars. (Bacteria, lichens, molds and spores, etc) and possibly more complex forms.

I am also pretty close to convinced that they (the mysterious, unknown “they” that show up on all the conspiracy threads) ALREADY KNOW AND ARE ENGINEERING A WAY TO GENTLY TELL US.

So my sense of wonder is fine.
Wake me up when they find that Slurpee!


16 posted on 05/31/2008 1:29:19 PM PDT by djf
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To: shineon
No one can argue that Jules Verne's creative vision did not come to pure reality. What is stunning is the small time span, historically speaking for it to come to pass.

And humanity continues to have visions..


17 posted on 05/31/2008 1:31:56 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: djf

“Wake me up when they find that Slurpee!”

Better yet, let’s learn to make them there ourselves out of some of that ice.


18 posted on 05/31/2008 1:34:08 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

While I’m in rant mode, might as well take advantage of it.

Can somebody please send NASA one of their old, used Kodachromes?
Talk about quantum leaps!

So far, the best stuff I’ve seen is the stuff coming from MRO!


19 posted on 05/31/2008 1:44:58 PM PDT by djf
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http://www.spaceweather.com/

Like a human being, Phoenix’s stereo camera has a right and left eye for seeing things in three dimensions. Using images from the two points of view, graphic artist Patrick Vantuyne of Belgium has created some superb anaglyphs of the lander’s surroundings. Put on your 3D glasses and behold: Mars Yeti http://spaceweather.com/swpod2008/02jun08/vantuyne4.jpg (Phoenix’s arm makes a first impression on the Red Planet); One small step... (one of the lander’s three feet); Vines (the camera’s mast casts a criss-crossed shadow on the ground).


20 posted on 06/04/2008 9:46:51 AM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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