Posted on 05/30/2008 5:01:11 AM PDT by Invisigoth
And there is also the fairness issue, it is grossly unfair to put American labor in direct competition with Chinese communist labor. The cost of living in the USA is vastly higher then the cost of living in communist China. Chinese labor does not have to carry the burden of environmental protection, OHSA, workman comp, and a dozen other mandatory costs.
Unrestrained free trade of today is exactly like the unrestrained capitalism of the late 1800 and early 1900. A few win big and the rest struggle to stay alive. Not my idea of a conservative society.
I think trade with the chicoms is a one way street favoring them and it must stop.
I do find it ironic that we trade with Communist China even though they are responsible for more American deaths post WWII than any other country. Either coming overt the hills in Korea or training, equipping and arming the NVA.
Arming Iran now to.
Can you send Paul Ibrahim the link to this thread?
The ChiComs mean no good and the “free” traders are too greedy to realize that. Or maybe, they do realize the threat but prefer to ignore it for obvious reasons.
Yep. Already did.
There are a number of Chinese products that I really like. There are many things about traditional Chinese culture that I appreciate and would welcome more knowledge of and experience with. I can only wish for the best for the Chinese people as I do for all people. But the CCP is in control and they are as evil and dangerous as any regime has ever been. Free trade with them is a mistake and a fool's dream to think it will change them. It is no different than Obama's "Hope and Change" nonsense. It is the same delusional thinking as all liberal garbage. It has no grounding in reality and is disconnected from the inevitability of cause and effect.
Absolutely right.
Also, IMO, conservatism is not defined as or by capitalism. Capitalism is simply the reality of goods and services traded for profit. It isn't tied to any political ideology, theology or philosophy of life.
My view of conservatism isn't compartmentalized into moral conservatism, social conservatism or economic conservatism. None of those things alone is conservatism to me. They are simply aspects of the whole which is the patriotism of defending, preserving and flourishing the founding principles of our Constitutional Republic. The principles expounded in the DoI of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Those principles, protected by the appropriate understanding and use of the Constitution, encompass all the basic necessities for allowing freedom that best insure the flowering of a moral, ethical and prosperous society. A society whose security is assured through its voluntary unity of common purpose. The purpose being to create an environment conducive to the flowering of all of man's nobler characteristics and desires.
If that is not conservatism then conservatism is not what my politics are about. But whatever terms are used; the pursuit of economic prosperity as a fundamental measure of the success of our society is not in line with my view of the potential or the intentions of our Founding Father's vision of a free self-governing society. It doesn't support or promote the noble characteristics of mankind. It just feeds the age old games of greed and lust for power and control. It may seem to take the game out of the hands of the government and put it into the private sector, and in some ways it does, but it's the same game with the same effects and government is still in the game up to its neck. It doesn't encourage mankind it encourages men.
The Chinese government is going to very shortly make an official announcement that they are going stop the fluctuation of the currency and lock the exchange rate at 6.90 RMB to the U.S. Dollar.
There is some truth to what you say. However, many industries have been relocating to newly built factories in Vietnam and many are looking at building plants in India. The Chinese government seeing industry fleeing to neighboring countries have taken the last resort that they have to keep other companies from bolting.
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